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Old Mar 28, 2008 | 07:32 PM
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What do you all use for the plastic peice there the vent ends before turbo? Can I pick up a coupler or something at a local hardware store, or must it be a 4" pipe eshaust pipe? And what id I went up in size with the hose to like a 1" or something, would that hurt anything?
 
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Old Mar 28, 2008 | 08:32 PM
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I had been thinking about putting mine in the exhaust earlier this week. It just so happens that I had to go to Lowes today so I started looking around for pieces to make a canister to catch the oil and return the fumes back to the air intake. Before I knew it I had all the stuff and just had to buy it to give a try! I found some HVAC filters that i think will work good to catch the oil and not be to restrictive. i will be doing htis and other MODs this weekend. Hopefully, finally installing my wicked wheel and shimming my FPR.
 
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Old Mar 28, 2008 | 09:04 PM
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Originally Posted by redfire42
What do you all use for the plastic peice there the vent ends before turbo? Can I pick up a coupler or something at a local hardware store, or must it be a 4" pipe eshaust pipe? And what id I went up in size with the hose to like a 1" or something, would that hurt anything?
I would stick with the metal exhaust pipe. You know it's not going to be affected by the heat under the hood and it works well for many, many others. I'm not sure you'll find anything at the hardware store and the 4" exhaust is so easy to find.

Go to one of the big rig shops in your town. 4" exhaust tubing is something they should have plent of in stock. I actually got mine for free. When I told them I only needed a 4" piece of 4" tubing, they had that lying around in scrap and just gave it to me at no charge.

Edit: forgot about the tubing. 1" ID is good. Most will say 3/4" or larger, the bigger the better.
 
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Old Mar 28, 2008 | 10:13 PM
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Gene, the move to GA actually fell through, so I'm plugging away at it here in Columbia, MO. Let me know when you'll be coming through and we can meet up for lunch, dinner, breakfast or whatever you're in the mood for. I'm out of town the very last weekend in April, Friday thru Sunday though.
Here's some possible options for a visit. After we pick up the new 40' 5er around the 3rd week in April, we plan on stopping by Springfield to visit friends, then on to Lake Ozark to visit a buddy who among other things was my crew chief when I raced sports cars in the 60's.

Option 1, you can stop by the Lake for a day (or even overnight as my buddy is single and has a large house) and he'll probably also want to give us a ride in his twin V-8 Scarab depending on the weather.

Option 2, I can drop by on my way to St. Louis. Looks like the nearest RV park that can take my new setup is about 15 miles west of you on I-70.

I'll send you an email when I get to Springfield. It'll probably be the first week of May before I get to Lake Ozark.
 
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Old Mar 28, 2008 | 11:11 PM
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Sounds good Gene. If I can find someone to take care of the dogs for a night, I wouldn't mind coming to the lake. I love the water and fast boats. That would be fun. If that doesn't work out though, the RV park around here will work just fine. You've still got my email I assume.
 
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Old Mar 29, 2008 | 07:01 AM
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Originally Posted by jtharvey
I would stick with the metal exhaust pipe. You know it's not going to be affected by the heat under the hood and it works well for many, many others. I'm not sure you'll find anything at the hardware store and the 4" exhaust is so easy to find.

Go to one of the big rig shops in your town. 4" exhaust tubing is something they should have plent of in stock. I actually got mine for free. When I told them I only needed a 4" piece of 4" tubing, they had that lying around in scrap and just gave it to me at no charge.

Edit: forgot about the tubing. 1" ID is good. Most will say 3/4" or larger, the bigger the better.
I don't know of any big rig shops near me, where ealse could I get it? Would any exhaust shop have it you think, 4" is on the bigger side for most.
 
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Old Mar 29, 2008 | 07:32 PM
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Originally Posted by ernesteugene
The notion that a CCV into the tailpipe mod hasn't ruined your PSD in only 100K miles, so that proves it's safe for everyone else to do it, falls into the category of "I'm not dead yet logic" so therefore whatever I'm doing to myself (bacon cheeseburgers, smoking, etc...) must not be hurting me!
Gene. Your argument has a fallacy. You're comparing a person at my age, 37 and hopefully about another 200% of my life remaining, to a vehicle engine that should be hitting it's life expectancy any day now (truck has 235k +). To say I won't live to be a hundred eating burgers, smoking, etc. while attempting to transfer the analogy to my truck engine which should be near life's end might not make it lacks critical thought. The fact that it has made it 100k, on top of it's first 100k shows that these engines are very durable and can take it. There is simply no evidence to support your claims that higher than stock CC presures actually harms the engine. Speculation of turbo seals and pan gaskets further show little to no "interpretation" of your extensive analysis. No one that I can think of in my 8 years or so of following the forums has complained of a turbo seal failure due to CC overpressure. Furthermore, the pan gasket speculation lacks merit in that you state there is over a hundred psi pushing your pan away from the block. So what? Each and every one of the bolts holding that pan on are capable of holding many, many times that 100 lbs. If you were to argue that the cross section of the gasket is being pushed out, OK, but you're not and it leads to people getting the wrong impression.

Originally Posted by ernesteugene
I enjoyed our visit, but I noticed that you take much better care of those sophisticated machines in your shop than you do of the one under your hood. For example, I don't think you'd want me to describe here on FTE the support bracket for your 6637 air filter? I wish I'd had my camera with me. Now you'll have to post a pic of it so everyone else can see the "quality" of your MODs!
Ouch! Is there anything lower than having your mod ridiculed by Dr. Ducttape himself??? Since you brought it up, and it's been posted on FTE before, here's the "bracket" Gene is homing in on and broadly generalizing as to the "quality" of my mods! Also are a couple of links showing what level of quality I put forth in my efforts!

First the Shoe. It's holding my 6637 up at exactly the right position so the IC tube doesn't rub on anything. It's temporary, meaning it won't be there for more than 6 or 7 years before I make a billet bracket for it!

https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/5...oe#post4084733

Now, more quality from Fat:

https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/5...ighlight=trans

And:

https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/6...with-pics.html
 
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Old Mar 29, 2008 | 08:47 PM
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Dang ya'll need to settle down here LOL- BTW I used a piece of skid tube landing gear from a AH-1W Super Cobra (helicopter) that I work on. It just happened to be 4" diameter. Now who's redneckin' the mods!!
 
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Old Mar 29, 2008 | 11:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Fat Diesel
There is simply no evidence to support your claims that higher than stock CC presures actually harms the engine. Speculation of turbo seals and pan gaskets further show little to no "interpretation" of your extensive analysis.
First of all, the stock CCV provides about a 4" H20 vacuum, not a pressure! Second, I guess you didn't see this...

Oil Leak after CCV-Delete
https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/669993-oil-leak-after-ccv-delete.html#post5311716

and if I took the time, I could cite numerous posts about blown turbo seals, etc.. due to clogged CCV vent hoses causing excessive pressure in the crankcase! To review the bidding, this was my first post citing my concerns about elevated crankcase pressure due to CCV mods.

Is a CCV mod like a bacon cheeseburger?
https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/589246-is-a-ccv-mod-like-a-bacon-cheeseburger.html


Originally Posted by ernesteugene
I'll summarize my concerns here. Guzzle reported measuring a positive crankcase pressure of 7.5 in H2O (0.27 psi) at idle. Racor claims a X4 increase at WOT which would give 30 in H2O (1.08 psi). This seems too low to me, because my SOP impression is that my truck works much harder than a X4 towing a grade than at idle, but maybe the X4 is correct for the increase in blow-by pressure?

In any case, Racor claims that even the 1 psi number exceeds manufactures spec for seals? Racor also claims that an older engine (like mine) at WOT has a X8 more blow-by pressure than a newer one at idle.
Now as it turned out, Guzzel had a X10 error in his write up of his crankcase pressure measurements, so at WOT he was actually seeing only about 0.1 psi, not the 1.0 psi which he initially reported, and which lead to my initial concern about the CCV mod vented to the atmosphere.

When you vent to the tailpipe you'll see crankcase pressure in exceeds of 1.0 psi, and if you check the Racor links in the cheeseburger thread, you'll see that 1.0 psi exceeds the spec for seals!

BTW, I've upgraded to Gorilla Tape for my FL mods, as in my windshield leak!
 
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Old Mar 30, 2008 | 12:35 AM
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Originally Posted by redfire42
I don't know of any big rig shops near me, where ealse could I get it? Would any exhaust shop have it you think, 4" is on the bigger side for most.
4" is typically bigger than most automotive exhaust shops have, but it can't hurt to check. Have you checked the yellow pages for your area, looking for any of the big rig names like Kenworth, International, Freightliner, Cummins, etc? If nothing else, you could order a piece online, like from here: http://store.airflo.com/4310-405.html
 
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Old Mar 30, 2008 | 01:00 AM
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Originally Posted by redfire42
What do you all use for the plastic peice there the vent ends before turbo? Can I pick up a coupler or something at a local hardware store, or must it be a 4" pipe eshaust pipe? And what id I went up in size with the hose to like a 1" or something, would that hurt anything?

I just got a rubber cap (3/4 IIRC) from the local auto parts store w/ hose clamp and coverd the hole. Seems to work pretty good.
 
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Old Mar 30, 2008 | 01:19 AM
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I don't know of any big rig shops near me, where ealse could I get it? Would any exhaust shop have it you think, 4" is on the bigger side for most.
If you ever get by the allentown area, theres a shop near the lehigh valley airport that sells anything big rig related. Its where I picked up my exhaust pipe. Associated Truck Parts off of union blvd near airport road.
 
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Old Mar 30, 2008 | 07:47 AM
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I just got a rubber cap (3/4 IIRC) from the local auto parts store w/ hose clamp and coverd the hole. Seems to work pretty good.
Did you at least cut the scoop off the inside of the coupler? I think that thing would be a pretty good sized impediment to flow.
 
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Old Mar 30, 2008 | 08:33 AM
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Fat Diesel, don't p**S off the engineer. Gene is always right. just ask him.
If his computer says so, tis so. I also run my CCV into the exhaust with an air diverter check valve welded to the bung and get no backpressure into the hose. I know, the world as we know it will fail if we do this,but it works for me. Barney
 
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Old Mar 30, 2008 | 05:30 PM
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Did you at least cut the scoop off the inside of the coupler? I think that thing would be a pretty good sized impediment to flow.
No, it is still there. Hadn't really considered what kind of effect it has on airflow.
 
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