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Old Mar 26, 2008 | 01:13 PM
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I say it's the heat causing the problem.

I had the same problem (pretty bad too), then I put a heat sheild, and it doesn't do it anymore.
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Old Mar 26, 2008 | 02:20 PM
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I've seen this too when I have my timing too far advanced. For some reason it fires over fine when cold (maybe slower combustion?) and then when warm it gets very slow. Using ported vacuum will help this if you want to run more advanced most of the time. That's what I'm doing now.
 
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Old Mar 26, 2008 | 03:35 PM
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I fixed the exact problem last weekend on mine. It turned out to be the wire shorting on the inner fender well. It looked just fine, but when I pulled it off and looked at it, I could see just a small spot of green corrosion where it was shorting against the well, and a corresponding spot on the well itself.
 
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Old Mar 26, 2008 | 04:19 PM
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My truck was doing the slow starting really bad .My wire running to the starter was bad(insulation all the way off) about a month ago. I replaced this and its been fine until this week. All the wires for the starter and batt(and silinoid are new. I havent checked the connections really. I had the batt tested today and it was fine. The alternator hasnt been checked. I have the stock exhaust all the way.(except for a different muffler)
Ill check the timing and get back with yall.
How much is a starter roughly?

By the way. Im a GA boy. that was a GA bulldog tag..not greenbay. lol
 
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Old Mar 26, 2008 | 04:38 PM
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Originally Posted by 78Ranger_GARedNeck
My truck was doing the slow starting really bad .My wire running to the starter was bad(insulation all the way off) about a month ago. I replaced this and its been fine until this week. All the wires for the starter and batt(and silinoid are new. I havent checked the connections really. I had the batt tested today and it was fine. The alternator hasnt been checked. I have the stock exhaust all the way.(except for a different muffler)
Ill check the timing and get back with yall.
How much is a starter roughly?

By the way. Im a GA boy. that was a GA bulldog tag..not greenbay. lol
Sure is a shame to have that tacky ole "G" on that good looking truck - j/k.
If you replaced the wires about a week ago, I woudl check them for tightness again. Its just about the right time for re-torquing.
 
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Old Mar 26, 2008 | 04:42 PM
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Originally Posted by 78Ranger_GARedNeck
My truck was doing the slow starting really bad .My wire running to the starter was bad(insulation all the way off) about a month ago. I replaced this and its been fine until this week. All the wires for the starter and batt(and silinoid are new. I havent checked the connections really. I had the batt tested today and it was fine. The alternator hasnt been checked. I have the stock exhaust all the way.(except for a different muffler)
Ill check the timing and get back with yall.
How much is a starter roughly?

By the way. Im a GA boy. that was a GA bulldog tag..not greenbay. lol
Starters aren't expensive. I'd say around $35 or so.
I bought one at Napa when I worked there for $15 w/ my discount.



I had the same problem with my stock exhaust. It was still doing it when I put headers, so I put the heat sheild shortly after, and it's good now.
 
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Old Mar 26, 2008 | 06:20 PM
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That starter wire has been there for a month and the other wires longer than that.(they were there when we got it 2 months ago) Ithink the Alt is good because it puts out fine.
The heat shield might work but my question is why is this just now starting to overheat the starter. The engine has gotten the same temp for years. It also is getting worse i think. I mean i can drive for shorter distances and its slower than it was the last time i did the same thing.
Like i said ill check the timing but i think since this is just starting to happen that its not the engine losing its timing. It runs fine.
Should i just get the stock replacement starter at NAPA or is there an aftermarket product better but not at an outrageous price?
 
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Old Mar 26, 2008 | 08:38 PM
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the little mini high output starters seem to work great, but they run around $150...

My little Napa starter w/heat sheild is working great.
 
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Old Mar 27, 2008 | 04:03 PM
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Where do you get a heat shield and how much?
 
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Old Mar 27, 2008 | 04:13 PM
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Could probably fashion one yourself out of thicker gauge sheet metal and drill a hole for the upper starter bolt to hold it in place. Looks like MBBFord made his own?
 
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Old Mar 27, 2008 | 05:19 PM
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I made my own and it is working fine, but if it didn't I was thinking of combining it with wrap around heat shield like from summitracing or jegs

Here's mine:

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Old Mar 27, 2008 | 06:47 PM
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Thats pretty cool.. i think im going to just buy a NAPA starter though. I meen i dont think i need the heat shield because the starter was working fine a couple weeks ago.
 
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Old Dec 21, 2008 | 03:16 PM
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Originally Posted by 78Ranger_GARedNeck
Where do you get a heat shield and how much?
Heat Shield:

JEGS 32000 - JEGS Universal Starter Heat Insulator - JEGS
 
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Old Feb 1, 2025 | 06:49 PM
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Thats pretty cool.. i think im going to just buy a NAPA starter though. I meen i dont think i need the heat shield because the starter was working fine a couple weeks ago.
I know this is from 08 but did anyone ever actually find the solution to this problem? I'm having this issue right now with my 78 f100 and it's driving me crazy.
 
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Old Feb 3, 2025 | 07:29 AM
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Originally Posted by Gertie78
I know this is from 08 but did anyone ever actually find the solution to this problem? I'm having this issue right now with my 78 f100 and it's driving me crazy.
From reading the replies it seems to me like it is most likely a bad connection somewhere, heat related or a failing starter.

Even though I am not sure why a bad connection would cause the issue to occur when hot or cold, if it were me I would start by cleaning all of the wiring connections even if they look fine. That would be zero cost. I would hate to buy a new starter just for the issue not to go away.

If the above did not work and the issue just recently started I would try a new starter.

If it is something that has always happened since owning the truck then I would say start with a heat shield before spending the money on a new starter. That link someone posted for JEGS still is accurate and their heat shield/wrap is around $25.00.

Just my 2 cents.

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