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Originally Posted by jefftb
FTE specification section lists the 02 V10 as having the 4R100 as well. I've read generally good past thread/posts on the 4R behind the V10.
Seems like the 7.3 is just a tad more than the 4R likes but not too much b/c some are getting better than 100K on the tranny with the 7.3. I think a tranny should at least go 120K+ miles before needing much.
I'm really not much worried about the truck performance and most of my mods are oriented towards longevity and not performance. This truck will be daily driver for my business so I do need the potential downtime from performance based mods. Now if it makes perform longer, those I look at it.
I'm really leaning toward the funny diesel smell......
Seems like the 7.3 is just a tad more than the 4R likes but not too much b/c some are getting better than 100K on the tranny with the 7.3. I think a tranny should at least go 120K+ miles before needing much.
I'm really not much worried about the truck performance and most of my mods are oriented towards longevity and not performance. This truck will be daily driver for my business so I do need the potential downtime from performance based mods. Now if it makes perform longer, those I look at it.
I'm really leaning toward the funny diesel smell......
If the tranny ends up going, write off a $4k BTS/John Wood/SunCoast tranny as a business investment and never worry about it again. Where are you located, BTW??
EDIT: And the V10 may make more HP (stock, anyway!!), but the 7.3 makes loads more torque (I'm creeping up on 700 ft-lbs!!). That's what you need with 12k behind you.
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Yep, got my gears/years mixed up on the V10-it is indeed a 5R.
I'm in East Tennessee, 2 hours north of Atlanta on I75.....
I'm in East Tennessee, 2 hours north of Atlanta on I75.....
Last edited by jefftb; Mar 25, 2008 at 02:31 PM. Reason: Location Awareness
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hhmmm.... You might look up Mike -- Tenn01PSD350 at Smokin' in the Smokies. He's getting his stuff together for a REAL mean 7.3. After his trip to Smokin', he should be putting down 400+ RWHP. That event is in Gatlinburg, you should go to get a real eye full of what the PSD can do!! 
EDIT: You're also basically in DP-Tuner's back yard!! Lucky...
EDIT: You're also basically in DP-Tuner's back yard!! Lucky...
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The '05 V-10 has a 5R110W transmission (Torqshift), a much better transmission.
I'd go with the V-10 if I were in your shoes. The 7.3 will get a bit better fuel mileage, but with diesel running over 70 cents more a gallon you spend more per mile. The V-10 is more than capable of pulling the load, especially with the 4.10 gearing.
I'd go with the V-10 if I were in your shoes. The 7.3 will get a bit better fuel mileage, but with diesel running over 70 cents more a gallon you spend more per mile. The V-10 is more than capable of pulling the load, especially with the 4.10 gearing.
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Originally Posted by redford
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I'd go with the V-10 if I were in your shoes. The 7.3 will get a bit better fuel mileage, but with diesel running over 70 cents more a gallon you spend more per mile.
I'd go with the V-10 if I were in your shoes. The 7.3 will get a bit better fuel mileage, but with diesel running over 70 cents more a gallon you spend more per mile.
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Actually, diesel here in NE Wisconsin is 4.03 this morning, 87 octane gasoline is 3.24, so 79 cents difference.
Someone will have to chime in on the mileage of the V-10 with 4.10s, I know they get better than 12 MPG, I'll guess at 14 MPG but that is probably low. 18 MPG is probably realistic for a 7.3L
PSD = $4.03 divided by 18 MPH = 22.38 cents per mile.
V-10 = $3.24 divided by 14 MPG = 23.14 cents per mile.
So, the PSD at 18 MPG is slightly cheaper per mile. I stand corrected.
Someone will have to chime in on the mileage of the V-10 with 4.10s, I know they get better than 12 MPG, I'll guess at 14 MPG but that is probably low. 18 MPG is probably realistic for a 7.3L
PSD = $4.03 divided by 18 MPH = 22.38 cents per mile.
V-10 = $3.24 divided by 14 MPG = 23.14 cents per mile.
So, the PSD at 18 MPG is slightly cheaper per mile. I stand corrected.
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i would go with the 7.3 also. very good engine. bad tranny, but that can be fixed. i don't think you can go wrong either way. both have good and bad that can be argued all day. v10 would have better tranny, frame, sharper turning, and bigger brakes. the 7.3 will get better gas mileage, more low end power, and should last damn near forever.
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Originally Posted by redford
Actually, diesel here in NE Wisconsin is 4.03 this morning, 87 octane gasoline is 3.24, so 79 cents difference.
Someone will have to chime in on the mileage of the V-10 with 4.10s, I know they get better than 12 MPG, I'll guess at 14 MPG but that is probably low. 18 MPG is probably realistic for a 7.3L
PSD = $4.03 divided by 18 MPH = 22.38 cents per mile.
V-10 = $3.24 divided by 14 MPG = 23.14 cents per mile.
So, the PSD at 18 MPG is slightly cheaper per mile. I stand corrected.
Someone will have to chime in on the mileage of the V-10 with 4.10s, I know they get better than 12 MPG, I'll guess at 14 MPG but that is probably low. 18 MPG is probably realistic for a 7.3L
PSD = $4.03 divided by 18 MPH = 22.38 cents per mile.
V-10 = $3.24 divided by 14 MPG = 23.14 cents per mile.
So, the PSD at 18 MPG is slightly cheaper per mile. I stand corrected.
But anyway, how about towing 12k lbs?? MUCH bigger difference there. Fortunately, down here diesel never made it over $4.00 (where I buy, anyway) and it's now on the way back down. ///KNOCK ON WOOD!!///
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Redford,
How much (often & weight) you towing with the 5.4-3.73 rear combo?
Ever wonder what its like with a 4.10 or even the 4.30 rear?
I know the 4.3 is not listed as an option on the 5.4 from the factory but surely it could be an retrofit with the axles being the same.....
by myself.....Redford,
How much (often & weight) you towing with the 5.4-3.73 rear combo?
Ever wonder what its like with a 4.10 or even the 4.30 rear?
I know the 4.3 is not listed as an option on the 5.4 from the factory but surely it could be an retrofit with the axles being the same.....
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Check out this thread:
https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/7...ow-pics-2.html
This is from post #22:
I think it's a hell of a testament to the 7.3....
https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/7...ow-pics-2.html
This is from post #22:
I think it's a hell of a testament to the 7.3....