59 292 Starting Problem
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59 292 Starting Problem
We got the truck home, it was running really rough so we decided to find TDC of the #1 cylinder. after finding it the rotor in the dizzy was not pointing where it should be nor did the timing marks line up correctly on the crank now me and my stepfather are going at a battle of wits as to why this thing isnt starting so just to clarify.
I am good with 302's so I know the piston layout for such but what is the piston layout for the 292? This way we know which cylinder is #1? I cant seem to find it anywhere.
as of today I thought it was
4 - 8
3 - 7
2 - 6
1 - 5
then later with no luck I researched a bit and someone said this
8 - 4
7 - 3
6 - 2
5 - 1
still no luck. the firing order I believe is 1-5-4-8-6-3-7-2
I am good with 302's so I know the piston layout for such but what is the piston layout for the 292? This way we know which cylinder is #1? I cant seem to find it anywhere.
as of today I thought it was
4 - 8
3 - 7
2 - 6
1 - 5
then later with no luck I researched a bit and someone said this
8 - 4
7 - 3
6 - 2
5 - 1
still no luck. the firing order I believe is 1-5-4-8-6-3-7-2
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From: Greenville, SC
The #1 cylinder is the front one on the passenger side, goes 1, 2,3,4. Front on driver side is #5 and that side is 5, 6, 7, 8.
The firing order is 1,5,4,8,6,3,7,2. Also the firing order is printed on the intake manifold.
According to my 1960 shop manual the timing should be 4 degrees BTDC
If you had the correct cylinder are you sure it was on the compression stroke. Did you look at the valves? (both valves should be closed). It may have been at the top of the exhaust stroke (exhaust valve open). It would surprise me if it ran at all if they were too far off.
If you don't want to remove the valve cover, try this. Rotate the engine (use a big socket and a bar on the crank bolt) so the timing marks line up, see if #1 is TDC (remove plug and feel with a stick) if it is not continue to rotate until the marks line up again and find the #1 at TDC. Now you know you are on the correct cycle.
Also the distributor rotates counter clock wise, so once you put #1 in TDC on the compression stroke it should point at #1 on the distributor and you can check the remaining wires.
Hope this helps.
The firing order is 1,5,4,8,6,3,7,2. Also the firing order is printed on the intake manifold.
According to my 1960 shop manual the timing should be 4 degrees BTDC
If you had the correct cylinder are you sure it was on the compression stroke. Did you look at the valves? (both valves should be closed). It may have been at the top of the exhaust stroke (exhaust valve open). It would surprise me if it ran at all if they were too far off.
If you don't want to remove the valve cover, try this. Rotate the engine (use a big socket and a bar on the crank bolt) so the timing marks line up, see if #1 is TDC (remove plug and feel with a stick) if it is not continue to rotate until the marks line up again and find the #1 at TDC. Now you know you are on the correct cycle.
Also the distributor rotates counter clock wise, so once you put #1 in TDC on the compression stroke it should point at #1 on the distributor and you can check the remaining wires.
Hope this helps.
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Well we were off on the firing order but we fixed that today, and still no start. father is convinced its the points so hes going to gap them tomorrow. Ill tell ya the rings on this motor are almost non existent as when we pull the plug after each potential start up they are covered in engine sludge and oil. but no gasoline so that tells me they are firing to some degree. putting gas in the carb only worked so much and we even tried gum-out on the carb and no dice.
hopefully have better luck tomorrow.
hopefully have better luck tomorrow.
