Head Identification
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Head Identification
Need some help on head id. As some of you know I'm getting ready to build a 5.0 roller for my F150. It has the stock E7 heads now. I may port them but a friend has a long block roller 5.0 that supposedly came out of a 90's something mustang and he is going with aluminium heads. (His budget is bigger than mine for this build)!
At the top corners of the heads there is what looks to be a big I and a 4. This would be where you would normally find the T for an E7 head.
Any idea what these heads are? Are they better 'stock' than my E7's?
Thanks all
Craig
At the top corners of the heads there is what looks to be a big I and a 4. This would be where you would normally find the T for an E7 head.
Any idea what these heads are? Are they better 'stock' than my E7's?
Thanks all
Craig
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Originally Posted by Conanski
On early heads the casting numbers were under the valve cover, on later heads it's on the head gasket side near the center intake ports.
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OK fte experts here's what i got:
On the RF corner of the right head and LR corner of the left head, just outside the valve cover there is what looks like a 'I4'.
Inside the head, under the valve cover close to the intake side there is what looks like a tag with screws in it except its actually part of the head. It says: 0J12
Also inside the head under the rockers more or less and close to the center is a large 'T'
Also towards the front of the right head and rear of the left head there is a large stylized 'CP', at least thats whats it looks like to me.
These heads are setting on a 34 F1SE BB roller block.
Trying to find out what heads these are and if they are not E7's, are they a better head to start out with than the E7?
Thanks
Craig
On the RF corner of the right head and LR corner of the left head, just outside the valve cover there is what looks like a 'I4'.
Inside the head, under the valve cover close to the intake side there is what looks like a tag with screws in it except its actually part of the head. It says: 0J12
Also inside the head under the rockers more or less and close to the center is a large 'T'
Also towards the front of the right head and rear of the left head there is a large stylized 'CP', at least thats whats it looks like to me.
These heads are setting on a 34 F1SE BB roller block.
Trying to find out what heads these are and if they are not E7's, are they a better head to start out with than the E7?
Thanks
Craig
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I'm not as proper as these guys and don't care if I'm right.lol. The chances are that those heads are no better or worse than what you have and while Paul maintains that you can tell something about a head from the top, even he is talking about an early model head, and I doubt that what you have fit the bill. I would love to know what those letters and numbers mean in the corners, but I guess that's reserved for people named Edsel, because no one has explained that code yet. Like a girl laying on her stomach at the beach, you really never know what you got 'till you turn her over. Just MO.
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Originally Posted by doug1222556
Like a girl laying on her stomach at the beach, you really never know what you got 'till you turn her over. Just MO.
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For the record the only windsor heads I have seen with an identifying "casting number" of some type under the valve covers are some '60's vintage heads that actually had 302 or 351 cast in. You typically won't find these on a later motor unless somebody has swapped them on somewhere along the way, I mentioned it because you never know what you're gonna get when you buy a used motor. For the most part though when somebody asks for the casting number they mean a 4 digit alpha numeric sequence such as E7TE or C9OE for example, and these are found on the head gasket side on the 302/351 heads. Craig.. here's a few examples of these casting numbers.. http://www.aacncclub.com/FORD_HEAD_CASTING.html
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Hey, I'm hoping he has better luck with those heads than I have with the girls! Maybe I should drink less when I go to the beach, -nah, now that I think about it , when I was drinking, they didn't look that bad on either side.
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Hey Paul, I actually think he didn't understand what you meant by gasket side, so that's why I threw in the stupid "turn over" joke. I am still wondering about those corner #'s because I've seen a pic of "GT" stamped there, (on GT heads, which makes sense), and then #"s and letters that seem to defy logic. If you can riddle me that Batman, you'll be my hero.
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Often times a number like 18 or 34 is the mold number the part was cast in. A single letter like "J" or "M" is part of the part number (like C8OE-J or M identifying the casting). On the clock, I still haven't figured out how to read that, but if it has one raised dot that means it was cast during the day and two raised dots means it was cast during the night shift. If your head says CF (you think it says CP?), that is the foundry. CF is the cleveland engine plant and WF is the Windsor casting plant.