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Old Aug 13, 2001 | 12:50 PM
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Does anybody have a cam drive gear set for a 400 laying around to give me the tooth count on the cam sprocket? I can go to a parts store and count them myself but this is easier.
 
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Old Aug 15, 2001 | 11:00 AM
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Cam sprocket tooth count

farmpaw,

I believe on the stock timing set, there are 36 teeth on the cam sprocket. Seems like the Cloyes set I installed on my 351M had 48 teeth on the cam sprocket.

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Old Aug 15, 2001 | 07:34 PM
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Thanks, Bubba.
My question about the number of teeth is to determine if I can "cheat" the retarded cam set by advancing the cam one tooth on the sprocket to make up for the detune. At 36 teeth that will give 10 degrees of cam or 5 degrees of crank. It's unclear to me if the design retard was 4 degrees of crank or 4 degrees of cam. If it's crank angle this method will give the equivalent of one degree of advance over straight up. It's also possible that I'm all wet.
Is the Cloyes a roller chain set?
 
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Old Aug 16, 2001 | 09:48 AM
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You're right, that'd be 10 degrees at the cam. But I think that's going to make 20 degrees at the crank since it turns twice the rate of the cam. I believe events are always measured in crank degrees and 20 is a lot. I thought about doing the same thing to save a few bucks but a timing set with the three keyways isn't all that expensive and the job's the same either way.
 
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Old Aug 16, 2001 | 10:01 AM
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You're right about the 20 degrees, billp. That won't work. Cheapness prompted the idea but reality shot it down. Any idea what the keyed crank sprocket sells for?
 
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Old Aug 17, 2001 | 07:57 AM
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I bought an Edelbrock double roller timing set from Summit for mine. I think it was like $40-50. Like others have said you can probably just get a stock timing set for a '71 or maybe even just the crank sprocket for a '71. I don't know what that'd cost. Good luck.
 
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The Cloyes roller set is about $120 at my local NAPA store while the pre 71 crank sprocket is $8. I guess I know which way I'll go!
 
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