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Old Mar 10, 2008 | 10:42 AM
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Volant issues...

Just installed my Volant over the weekend. Seems the install opened a new door of problems for me. I've read a million other happy and positive reviews about the product, but mine is negative. I had to customize the coupler to install the tube(not a huge deal, but space sure is tight) Then I had to file the opening for the MAf(again not a huge pain, but something that should fit right) I then ever so carefully pulled the MAf from the stock airbox and installed it into my new one. Put it all together and problem#3, the maf connector isn't long enough> It plugs in, but there's tension on the wires. I pulled the harness over a little and it's on there, but I'd like to somehow extend the harness.Those wires are critical and can't deteriorate over time like most splice and tape jobs often do. Does anyone make a clip on extension? After the install my Check engine light came on.The truck idles rough and missfires while under load at low rpm causing a vibration. Only bonus is it sure sounds cool!
 
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Old Mar 10, 2008 | 10:58 AM
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maybe this thread will help you


https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/7...ghlight=VOLANT
 
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Old Mar 10, 2008 | 11:25 AM
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I had the same issues with mine. I called them and there are sending me out a new tube. However, that was over 2 weeks ago and I yet to receive it. My fit was also very tight, hitting the dash. I've done powetrain NVH work for 19 years and can't tell you how pissed I am when I have groundouts!! I didn't have any problems with my harness, so I'm not sure why yours' is shorter..
 
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Old Mar 10, 2008 | 01:20 PM
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From what I have read the last year or so on this forum, the '04's are notorious for throwing a CEL when the PCM has to make a significant adjustment to the fueling to keep the ratio correct. It made the adjustment, but it squawks about it until there is enough drive cycles for it to realize that the condition is normal.

The fault window was evidently widened in subsequent years so they are not as apt to throw a fault with a new intake.

With yours idling rough, it sounds like it didn't make a big enough correction or you may have a leak somewhere between the MAF and the throttle.
 
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Old Mar 10, 2008 | 02:28 PM
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you need to get that Volant intake off your truck. call Volant and have them send you a new one, then re-install. you're risking damage to your truck right now
 
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Old Mar 10, 2008 | 06:09 PM
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I checked for leaks and there isn't one. I'll bring it in to Ford and see what they say. I tried putting the stock intake back on, and it did the same thing. With the amount of snow flying I don't have time to deal with it. Now I'm almost afraid to install the Edge!
 
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Old Mar 10, 2008 | 07:15 PM
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I checked for leaks and there isn't one. I'll bring it in to Ford and see what they say. I tried putting the stock intake back on, and it did the same thing. With the amount of snow flying I don't have time to deal with it. Now I'm almost afraid to install the Edge!
Ford ain't goona do nothing for ya since you messed with the stock air box, as far as warranty ect. they dont like us doing mods on our trucks, because problems such as yours lead to other things going wrong. For the amount of horsepower gains your gonna get (small) really isn't worth the hassel, oh but you mentioned " It sounds cool " expensive price to pay for it to sound cool, should have had it put in by a shop been alot cheaper then what your gonna have to pay, plus it would have been piece of mind knowing it's in and they have all the tools in the shop for any modification, my opinion and from a guy at a performance shop who builds race engines said these CAI units are way overrated-get a good exhaust you see moe HP then with a CAI, just put in a good air-filter cheaper for ya. Anyways good luck man thanks for the post because it makes me glad to know I made a good decision on not messing with the CAI. Was told just to replace intake tube and stock air filter and be done with it-- I was and for under $155 dollars picked up 15HP to the wheels. Good luck
 
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Old Mar 10, 2008 | 07:22 PM
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Originally Posted by 4DOORSR
I checked for leaks and there isn't one. I'll bring it in to Ford and see what they say. I tried putting the stock intake back on, and it did the same thing. With the amount of snow flying I don't have time to deal with it. Now I'm almost afraid to install the Edge!
I'd have someone else install the edge so you know it's in and properly working just for piece of mind sakes, snow flying all around another reason to have had a shop do it. Dont get discouraged, about doing stuff yourself the Volant just not a good fit, get your money back run the the stock tube then order and get a aftermarket intake tube only and better flowing air filter and results would be close as far as HP --plus alot cheaper. Good luck
 
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Old Mar 11, 2008 | 09:07 AM
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I'm not worried about the install. I'm as good a mechanic as most.(and have more tools) I've been doing it a long time. Sometimes the simplest of things can be the biggest of a pain. I've installed intakes on every vehicle I've ever owned and never had a problem like this. My post was supposed to put emphasis on the fact the Volant cai is crap, not to deter others from installing cai kits on their trucks. There's no difference between installing an aftermarket "tube" or a cai. Your still messing with the maf. The only thing your not touching is the origional filter box.
 
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Old Mar 11, 2008 | 09:54 AM
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Sorry but I take serious exception to your calling the Volant CAI "crap"! I installed one on my 06 Lariat in about an hour and it fit and worked perfectly and has continued to function perfectly. And I'm not a mechanic and have only the very, very basic of tools - a cheap socket set, a few wrenches and screw drivers.

I'm sorry you're having issues with yours, and with Twinsdad98's earlier post, it sounds to me as if possibly they had some bad casting of a batch of tubes? Still, one or two bad apples doesn't spoil the whole bunch. as you said "I've read a million other happy and positive reviews about the product."
 
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Originally Posted by silver lariat
Sorry but I take serious exception to your calling the Volant CAI "crap"! I installed one on my 06 Lariat in about an hour and it fit and worked perfectly and has continued to function perfectly. And I'm not a mechanic and have only the very, very basic of tools - a cheap socket set, a few wrenches and screw drivers.

I'm sorry you're having issues with yours, and with Twinsdad98's earlier post, it sounds to me as if possibly they had some bad casting of a batch of tubes? Still, one or two bad apples doesn't spoil the whole bunch. as you said "I've read a million other happy and positive reviews about the product."
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I can't believe that you actually forced the thing to fit. that would have been the first clue something wasn't right. have you contacted Volant yet about getting that tube replaced?
 
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Old Mar 11, 2008 | 12:20 PM
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+2 I've had mine for a year. No problem with installation or operation. I DID get a significant hp gain. With edge on level 2 & the Volant I get 289 RWHP on the Dyno.
 
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Old Mar 11, 2008 | 01:32 PM
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What good is a new tube if I already fixed the other one? I hardly call cutting 3/4" off a coupler forcing. By the looks of things the throttle body opening sits a little further from the firewall on the 05+. I wasn't gonna wait another few weeks for what a file did in a few mins. Maybe they should just change the discription to" May require modification on some 04 models"
 
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Old Mar 11, 2008 | 07:36 PM
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Originally Posted by 4DOORSR
What good is a new tube if I already fixed the other one? I hardly call cutting 3/4" off a coupler forcing. By the looks of things the throttle body opening sits a little further from the firewall on the 05+. I wasn't gonna wait another few weeks for what a file did in a few mins. Maybe they should just change the discription to" May require modification on some 04 models"
because you did have to modify the tube, you also got a CEL...obviously the tube is miscast...that's why

if anything happens to your motor, you're going to on here claiming that Volant products are crap...and you won't mention you "forced" it to fit your truck.

the 2004-2008 F-150 5.4 motors are identical...the only exceptions are the exhaust manifolds and PCM programming. so no "May require modification on some 04 models" blurb is needed.
 
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Old Mar 11, 2008 | 08:24 PM
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So you're saying the reason I modified my tube is the reason I got a CEL light? I really doubt that moron. It's not leaking air after the maf, so it's not going to change anything that would throw a code. My complaint is I shouldn't have to modify something I paid 400$ for. I don't care who's gonna send me what. It's a waste of my time and the reason most companies have quality control. My guess to the truck running bad would be a bad MAF. I'll try cleaning it and see what happens.
 
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