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Old Mar 8, 2008 | 07:16 PM
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Angry Still No POWER!!!!

Hey Guys so far i have to thank everyone for the help BUT !!!! Heres the situation Steve Coury Ford in Cottonwood AZ in my opinionhas the worst deisel tech in the country !!! I took my 2003 (problem child) to them twice to diagnose a coolant coming out of the degas bottle !! First they said it was to full and they did a reflash !!! Cool ok !!!!! Well i took it home and it did the same thing !!! I called them and they said to take it in so i did . Well it turns out that the head gaskets where blown and the heads where 5000 out so they replaced the heads !!! Ok !!!! I think not i only drove the truck 2 miles and it poured out oil like a faucet !!! So i took it to them and showed them and they said "Oh NO We didnt do that " well my truck was still under warranty so they put another set of heads on it and its fine but when i picked it up it had no power and the turbo sounded like the vanes were stuck open !!!So on our test drive i went over my warranty milage by 12 miles they said the heads had to be broke in !! So now ihave no power or torque but it idles fine !! I took the turbo out to see what the hell was up and lo and behold they did not hook up my inlet to the egr cooler so all the exaust is staying under the hood !!! Ok so i changed the turbo and the egr valve and i still have no power any one have any ideas im stuck !!!! Im thinking injectors and hoping that ford put everything back together right!!!!! I have an 03 f 350 6.0 liter with a 6 inch lift 35 inch tires 4 inch turbo back afe intake . Thanks for all the help!!!!!
 
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Old Mar 8, 2008 | 07:49 PM
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talk to the general manager of the dealership. sit down and have a meeting...be calm and explain what you have experienced and how you went over warranty WHILE ON the test drive. I would then request that the both of you get a ford rep(or whatever you wanna call it) on the phone and then explain to them what you have experienced with that dealership and if the "Ford rep" can recommend another dealership in the area that will fix it under warranty since it should have been fixed right the first time. I would assume that Ford SHOULD take care of you but if they chalk up...have an attorney CALL...not write a letter. You're gonna wanna go about this as professional as possible since you are out of warranty. Did you ask if that dealership even has a certified 6.0 powerstroke technician?
 
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Old Mar 9, 2008 | 10:58 AM
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Hey Double
No i sure didnt ask if there was a certified technician i just asumed. I did the calm route and Ford said there was nothing they could do for me ! Well long story short i think i have some bad injectors so im just going to buy some or send mine to Spartan and get the arp studs in!! I just want people to know what happened at the dealer and to tell everyone if they have problems with there trucks to make sure they get it in writing because usually Ford will not and they do that to cover there ***! You know i have always been a Ford Man and i probably aways will i refuse to drive anything else i will not let a bad dealership jade me !! Thanks for all the Help!!!
Russell Moore
 
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Old Mar 9, 2008 | 10:14 PM
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Check Turbo Electrical Connections

With a 4" turbo back exhaust you should hear your turbo whine. No whine. No power. I have an MBRP 4" T back with no cat and mine whines idling. Sounds like a small jet engine. I would guess with all the other problems after the HGs were replaced that they left something disconnected that controls the turbo or the turbo vanes are stuck. Is your cat in? If so, take it out, run it and see if that makes any difference.

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Old Mar 9, 2008 | 10:41 PM
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no DSMMH i do hear the turbo whine and i have no cat mine also whines at idle too and if the vanes on my turbo are stuck then that wouldnt be good because there is only 20 miles on the new turbo, im leaning towards the injectors ! I also put in a new egr valve ! Im also thinking i need to do an egr delete while im doin the injectors thanks for the input !!!
 
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Old Mar 9, 2008 | 11:01 PM
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no DSMMH i do hear the turbo whine and i have no cat mine also whines at idle too and if the vanes on my turbo are stuck then that wouldnt be good because there is only 20 miles on the new turbo, im leaning towards the injectors ! I also put in a new egr valve ! Im also thinking i need to do an egr delete while im doin the injectors thanks for the input !!!
One more thing. Check your fuel pressure. I don't know exactly how to do this but get a fuel pressure gauge and attach it to the injector fuel supply rail. Is your fuel pump running? You should hear it run when you turn the key on before you start it. Did the dealer install new fuel filters after the HG job? Are any fuel lines supply or return kinked? I know on the old GM 350 diesels if the fuel pump return line was restricted or blocked the motor had no power.

One more more thing and I'm just guessing hear. The High Pressure Oil Pump may have enough pressure to fire the injectors at idle but not enough when power is demanded.

One more more more thing. You might want to do a HFCM or "no power" search. Seems to me not too long ago this same problem was discussed and I believe it was a fuel pump issue. Not sure, but worth a try.

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Old Mar 9, 2008 | 11:18 PM
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you know Dsmmh i thaught about the fuel pressure thing as well, would you know if i have the filter under the frame rail off and turn the key on (not started) just in the on posistion i hear the pump but nothing comes out ! I wander if it has to be on for the pressure? also my sending unit is not working and i saw a couple of black chunks in the fuel filter under the frame rail but i did change them all!!! Thanks for the info!!
 
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Old Mar 10, 2008 | 01:39 PM
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must be the week for this issue. I have a very simlar problem.

Dealer just finished new heads, arp studs, gaskets, egr cooler, Map sensor, thermotstat.....

Got truck back, runs great for 15minutes, then sputters, wont idle, and dies.

Let it sit for 10 minutes and away she goes no problems. 15minutes into it and again sputters and dies with no power and the exhaust gas temp go way up to 1,000 or higher if i let it.

Dealer says maybe the turbo.....I have 10PSI boost and sometimes all of the sudden it kicks up to 20PSI and i take off. Dealer says turbo has a high pitched squeal which they believe is going out. sounds like a bad bearing going out in the turbo to me, but what do i know.

Truck left me stranded two nights in a row. Getting frustrated, but hopefully we will figure this out. Seems to be fuel issue to me, but i am not a diesel Tech and i have spent allot of money getting all of this fixed and now down to truck not running after all the new equipment.

they call and say its fixed, i go and pick it up drive it for 15 minutes and back to zero again.

seems like what i have seen on the forum is this happens allot after a new set of heads...maybe there is something my dealership is missing?
 
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Old Mar 10, 2008 | 04:04 PM
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hey rcs just make sure you document everything and the dealer puts the problems in writing that way you can claim lemon law easier i failed to do that and now im fronting the bill!!!! Also if they put new head gaskets or heads on they more than likley took the cab off the chassie and then probably forgott to hook something up like in my case it was the egr up pipe in behind the turbo and about 8 inches down on the pass side!! also check for oil leaks usually driverside front under the wheel well!!!!
 
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Old Mar 10, 2008 | 06:36 PM
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Originally Posted by RMoore
hey rcs just make sure you document everything and the dealer puts the problems in writing that way you can claim lemon law easier i failed to do that and now im fronting the bill!!!! Also if they put new head gaskets or heads on they more than likley took the cab off the chassie and then probably forgott to hook something up like in my case it was the egr up pipe in behind the turbo and about 8 inches down on the pass side!! also check for oil leaks usually driverside front under the wheel well!!!!
Glad you found the problem!

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Old Mar 10, 2008 | 08:20 PM
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Nope I sure did NOT find the problem i think it started the problem so im still looking for the problem LOL !!!! Im still checking into the fuel pressure thing !!Thanks for all the Help ! I really do apprecite it!!!
 
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Old Mar 10, 2008 | 08:21 PM
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Old Mar 10, 2008 | 11:28 PM
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Originally Posted by rcsjr4546
must be the week for this issue. I have a very simlar problem.

Dealer just finished new heads, arp studs, gaskets, egr cooler, Map sensor, thermotstat.....

Got truck back, runs great for 15minutes, then sputters, wont idle, and dies.

Let it sit for 10 minutes and away she goes no problems. 15minutes into it and again sputters and dies with no power and the exhaust gas temp go way up to 1,000 or higher if i let it.

Dealer says maybe the turbo.....I have 10PSI boost and sometimes all of the sudden it kicks up to 20PSI and i take off. Dealer says turbo has a high pitched squeal which they believe is going out. sounds like a bad bearing going out in the turbo to me, but what do i know.

Truck left me stranded two nights in a row. Getting frustrated, but hopefully we will figure this out. Seems to be fuel issue to me, but i am not a diesel Tech and i have spent allot of money getting all of this fixed and now down to truck not running after all the new equipment.

they call and say its fixed, i go and pick it up drive it for 15 minutes and back to zero again.

seems like what i have seen on the forum is this happens allot after a new set of heads...maybe there is something my dealership is missing?
Sounds like HPOP to me............it quits once the truck is warm?
 
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Old Mar 11, 2008 | 05:16 PM
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yep, once it has been running for 15-20 minutes or so then all the missing, shaking and no power comes on. I will let the dealer know to look at the HPOP. They said that could be an issue.
 
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