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Old Mar 8, 2008 | 07:49 AM
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Manual locking hubs???

I plan to order a new F-250 soon and was using the "build your vehicle" site. I did not want the "shift on the fly" option so I obviously didn't select it. After I printed out my truck summary I noticed that "manual locking hubs" were listed. Does that mean I will have to get out and actually lock them in? I thought they went out years ago.

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Old Mar 8, 2008 | 08:00 AM
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You have 2 choices, ESOF of MANUAL hubs. Yes you have to get out and lock the hubs with the manual hubs.
 
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Old Mar 8, 2008 | 08:10 AM
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Personally, I think the manual hubs are better than the automatic anyway. If one of the seals goes bad on the automatics it can get quite a bit more costly because of the vacuum leak pulling moisture into the hub area. It happened to me and now I have Warn Maunul hubs in mine, after losing both auto hubs and wiping out the bearing surface on the axle shafts because of all the corrosion caused. With the manuals you can still get a torn seal but not as likely to cause as much of a problem because of lack of vacuum. Just my .02.


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Old Mar 8, 2008 | 08:46 AM
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You will have to get out. This is a small price to pay. If you really use the truck and plan to keep it for a long period of time you will be glad you have manual hubs.

You will need to lock your hubs prior to needing 4WD or be willing to get the shoes wet/muddy etc.

On easy trails I lock the hubs and just float the transfer case. If you break a manual, replace OEM with warn - They're less money and not plastic. For the top shelf, move to the Dynatrac.

Good luck and enjoy your new truck!
 
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Old Mar 8, 2008 | 08:55 AM
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The only unfortunate thing with either the ESOF or manual hubs on the 2005 and up Super Duty is that there are no aftermarket hubs available, so you are stuck replacing with Ford OEM if one goes bad.
 
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Old Mar 8, 2008 | 09:19 AM
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Wow! Who would have thought that! What is so different about the 05 hub design?
 
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Old Mar 8, 2008 | 10:08 AM
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All you have to do is lock your hubs BEFORE you need to use 4 wheel drive. I just unlocked mine for the first time in 3 weeks. Do it in your driveway, or when you first go off pavement, you won't have any problems.

Driving with your hubs locked but your transfer case in 2 wheel drive doesn't hurt anything.

A manual system (MSOS) is so much more reliable. When you pull the lever into 4H you know it'll be there. The trucks with ESOF can't always say that.

Do a search on 4 wheel drive problems, 99% of them will be ESOF problems.
 
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Old Mar 8, 2008 | 10:24 AM
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Originally Posted by WildWildWest
The only unfortunate thing with either the ESOF or manual hubs on the 2005 and up Super Duty is that there are no aftermarket hubs available, so you are stuck replacing with Ford OEM if one goes bad.

That's news to me. What changed on the 05 and up?
 
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Old Mar 8, 2008 | 10:31 AM
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Driving with yuor hubs locked but your transfer case in 2 wheel drive doesn't hurt anything.

The only thing it will hurt is your fuel milage !!! thats what I've found anyways !! My hubs get locked in in december and don't come out until feb.
 
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Old Mar 8, 2008 | 10:36 AM
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Yea, well, fuel mileage sucks, it's a Super Duty. If you don't like it, buy a Honda.

I saw a bumper sticker once, never have been able to find it, but it said;

Hondas are for people who don't like driving fast cars.
 
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Old Mar 8, 2008 | 10:39 AM
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Originally Posted by redford
All you have to do is lock your hubs BEFORE you need to use 4 wheel drive. I just unlocked mine for the first time in 3 weeks. Do it in your driveway, or when you first go off pavement, you won't have any problems.

Driving with yuor hubs locked but your transfer case in 2 wheel drive doesn't hurt anything.

A manual system (MSOS) is so much more reliable. When you pull the lever into 4H you know it'll be there. The trucks with ESOF can't always say that.

Do a search on 4 wheel drive problems, 99% of them will be ESOF problems.
I agree with that statement. But the most that have problems are not maintaining the ESOF. Most people that have problems have no idea the hubs are operated by vacuum.
 
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Old Mar 8, 2008 | 10:46 AM
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Originally Posted by stewcon
That's news to me. What changed on the 05 and up?
05+ trucks went to a coil spring front suspension and bigger brakes.
 
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Old Mar 8, 2008 | 11:00 AM
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I would get the manual hubs if i bought a new truck. I keep having problems with my vaccuum and hubs. Now my vaccuum and hubs are all shot and I have to replace it all. If the aftermarket warranty wont cover it im going with the warn manual hubs.
 
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Old Mar 8, 2008 | 11:05 AM
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I would get the manual hubs if i bought a new truck. I keep having problems with my vaccuum and hubs. Now my vaccuum and hubs are all shot and I have to replace it all. If the aftermarket warranty wont cover it im going with the warn manual hubs.
You won't regret it at all!!!


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Old Mar 8, 2008 | 11:10 AM
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if i had to do over i would definately order the lockouts. i ordered the esof when i got my 03 and had two hubs go under warranty. then when it ran out i seen how much they were and went to the warn lockouts. i love them. i agree with redford lock them in and leave em if you think you'll need them it won't hurt anything but your mileage.
 
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