---- Oh yeah...the build date is 2nd half of July 65 I would estimate as the July numbers end @ 719999 and starts at 708000...but I also know that mine was a very early July truck as the tag on my NP has a build date of 7-1-65...
Pull your tag off and see what yours says...its on the PTO cover on the RH side held on by 2 bolts. BTW, is yours a Camper Special ?? BTW, my number is 700859...I am really curious as to what was stamped on the back of the cluster. If you have any pics of it, post it...I need to do that I know, but mine isnt in a good spot to take pics...too dark..
One other thing, on the HD cooling and alternator...Mine is the double pulley...crank, water pump and alt...and from what Ive been able to decipher from the various books the CS trucks got the 55 amp/hr alternator...thats direct from the 66 salesman book I got...BUT, I just noticed one lil thing...it shows 4 alternators used on F250's...std is 38 amp/570 watt Autolite.
The optional ones are 45 and 55 watt Autolite as well as a 60 watt Leece Neville...right below it though it says in parenthesis though that it includes the oil and amp gauges.
Mine has a dbl pulley one which makes my truck happy and all so who knows :-)


- cs65

 

My 66 I bought at 6 mo old (wish I still had it) had 208 on air cleaner

 

Bill, I have never seen a 352 that didn't have 208 on the right side.

Wonder if it was a Cali. deal?


John

 

Wasn't the D5TE a common intake manifold for the FE engine?

"tag on my NP has a build date of 7-1-65...
Pull your tag off and see what yours says...its on the PTO cover on the RH side held on by 2 bolts. BTW, is yours a Camper Special ?? BTW, my number is 700859...I am really curious as to what was stamped on the back of the cluster."

I'll check the tag tomorrow. How do you tell if it's a Camper Special? I was only told that it's a Custom Cab. Nothing about CS. Is the 7500 GW a CS? Do you mean the differential? (sorry, I don't know cluster) There are no oil or amp guages, only idiot lights.

I guess at this point I can assume that I have a 1965 F250 352(T) 208hp @ 4400rpm ... (assuming is never good to me )

"It has to be a 1965, because of the D engine code."

I believe the 1964 also had a D engine code, but it was for a 292 Y block.

 

Camper Specials had the insert in the fender emblem...if its faded and all if you look super carefully you can tell what was once there...they also had I believe 3 extra leafs in the rear springs as I recall...I havent been under mine in a while. They also had the Junior West Coast mirrors as I recall them being called...I call them Mickey Mouse ears as they are so large. The heads are 7 1/2 X 10 1/2 I recall reading somewhere that these were shipped with the trucks from the factory uninstalled...kinda hard to get on the car carrier with them on. I believe they also had camper tie down hooks on the bed sides...2 per side on the skin itself vs under and attached to the frame like todays trucks.
They also had the extra cluster gauges for oil pressure and ammeter.
There were 3 different CS packages too...each adding to the lesser level package....you could only get 4 spd or C/M trans. front springs were 1250LB for the V8 trucks with 2400lb main rear springs. HD cooling(they called it extra cooling), HD battery, 55 amp alternator. The above is the basic package.
The next level is called the Custom Camper pkg. It is the above plus CC pkg(custom cab), Deluxe fresh air heater, 2 spd wipers, LH door pouch, dual horns.
Lastly is the Deluxe camper pkg available on styleside only...its the above plus padded visors, chrome front bumper, body side moldings and the RH bed storage compartment.
As you can see alot of it is cosmetics, but thats what they offered.
The CC pkg is in a nutshell all the brightwork available in and out, color keyed seat, armrests, vinyl floor mat , perforated headliner, bright plastic instrument cluster

This is all from the 66 salesman book I have...since 65 and 6 are so similar i would venture very little would have changed option wise between the 2 years but if there were differences Bill would know.


- cs65

 

No kidding? Really? Son of a gun.

1964/66 D engine code: 1964 292 2V / 1965 352 2V / 1966/72 330 H/D / 1966/68 Cummins Model NHE-195 743 cid Diesel.

1964/66 Y engine code: 1964/65 Cummins Model 180 743 cid Diesel / 1966 352 2V.

Now you know why I said it has to be a 1965, because of the D engine code, and 352 engine.

You go ahead and assume anything you want to, I'm sticking with what the parts catalog says, and is says NOTHING about 208 HP...anywhere!

I've never seen a 208 HP air cleaner decal, never seen it on any of the 100+ VIN Warranty Plates I've decoded here on FTE. Maybe some 1966's have it, dunno.

My 1965 F100's VIN is: F10DR6398XX / I bought the truck NEW / The original air cleaner decal says 172 HP / The Warranty Plate says 172 HP @ 4000 RPM.

 

I crawled all around the durn pickup and took a bunch of pix which I added quite a few to my gallery. I think I now have enough pix in there to do a 360* 3D pan.

Looks like quite a few 70's codes with a 60 thrown in there. Would you numbers guys mind taking one more look at the pix and telling me what I have?

There seems to be a few things missing for it to be a Camper Special. Of course, as I stated before, assuming has never been good to me. Especially on this pickup!

Don

 

IMHO, You have a 3/4 ton Custom Cab pickup with a replacement engine with some of the best flowing FE heads available.


What's next??



John

 

Here is the info I have to date:

Block - D4TE '74
Intake manifold - D5TE-9425-KB '75
Heads - D2TEAA '72
Exhaust manifold - C5TE '65

Are the Block, Heads and Intake from the same engine? (if so probably 1975)

With head changes in '73 and '75 do I still have the "best flowing FE heads available"

I think this has been answered in another post ... Is there any way to tell which engine, 352, 360, 390, by these numbers or do I need to pull the heads and check the bore and stroke?

Thanks fellers for all the info. I sure appreciate the time and effort. I hope I'm not being too much of a pain in the butt with this.

Don

 

Don, There is no way to tell what you have without tearing into it. It appears that you have at least a 360 engine, but by placing a white wire into one of the spark plug holes, laying a Sharpie against it while having a partner rotate the engine a couple revs and measuring the length of the mark you could have a truck 390. The 360/390 were the only two FE engines available for that year.

We have told you all that we can by looking at the photos. It should be a excellent engine, provided it is in running condition. IMHO

John

 

Thanks everyone for all the info. It should be fun to mess with an engine with a carb once again and not EFI or MPI.

I'm off to the parts house to exchange the '65 parts I bought to start on this project.

Don

 

While the engine itself is 1974/76, the C5TE exhaust manifolds are the originals used 1965/72. The manifolds changed in 1973. Whoever did the engiine swap kept the same manifolds, so they wouldn't have to change the exhaust inlet pipes.

 

Or put together an engine to install in the truck. NO WAY TO TELL 50 feet away.


John

 

Ok .... I have a couple of questions (of course). I wouldn't ask them if I didn't know the expertise and experience you guys have with these engines.

Did/would Ford put together a stock engine with '75 Intake, '74 Block and '72 Heads? I know they sometimes used parts from previous years, but what about this combination considering possible changes in '73 and '75? Would the '72 heads fit in with their plans for a 75 engine? (de-tuning, smog control, etc.)

Is there any significance to the -KB on the Intake number or the AA on the Heads?

I know these are pretty insignificant questions, but "Inquiring minds want to know". I also am sure these questions don't always have a yes or no answer.


Thanks again, and I'll quit bugging you now.

Don

 

Don, What Ford, may have built and what you might or might not have cobbled together can be miles apart. None of us can tell for sure what is in your truck. It has been 40 years since the truck was built, and 30 some since the engine was built.

We can get close, but none of us put the engine in the truck so we can't tell you for sure what is in it. Got it???????


John