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Old Feb 29, 2008 | 10:28 PM
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I have been really burned at my current job with lies and well connected people, although I was put on paid administrative leave for 8 days I have been back to work for 2 months now.

I hate going to work...have no motivation any longer.

Here's my delima: I have been offered a job at the company I used to work for 10 years ago, from the CEO. He has been calling me every two weeks and I have been in for a 2.5 hour interview. When I left there I didn't burn any bridges, never have but I left for a new career that I have been in for ten years. They are totally different types of jobs.

Problem is pay. For the new Job I would give up 18K a year in pay and 8 weeks vacation. However I enjoyed the work very much and it would include a new chevy z71 every 2 years that is also for personal use, where they pay insurance fuel and maintenacne costs, include an expense account, cell phone and new lap top. I could eventually get back to my curreent pay but it would take at least 3 years and increase at a greater rate after that.

Sad thing is my wife would then be making double what I make, although she would still have 11 weeks vacation ( we currently work in the same field).

Help; I can't decide...is money and time off with the family most important or is trying and doing something you already know you enjoy worth more?

NOTE: changing jobs will stop my watch collecting...dang!
 
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Old Feb 29, 2008 | 10:37 PM
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time off......does the new job require more hours from you? or is the cummute time much longer or time away from home, like out of town jobs, part of the new job? or are you just refering to vacation time? if just refering to the lost vacation time, does the new job have a vacation plan? any room to negotiate for one?

money...money is nice, but having a job you enjoy doing is even better. plus as you said, you will be right back to your present salary in 3 years with increases after that, so its not like you are entering a career with a lower pay ceiling.

in my opinion there is nothing sad about your wife making more, a family is a family, united you stand! my wife just through her excpetional language skills will probably at the end, be making much more than me at our future careers. it does not bother me one bit, if she makes enough, i will quit and work on my "hobbies".
 
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Old Feb 29, 2008 | 10:42 PM
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Have you talked it over with the boss (your wife) yet? You didn't mention what kind of financial shape you and your wife are in. Can you afford the financial setback? The truck, fuel, maintenance, insurance, laptop, etc. is worth something.

If it's not a financial burden on your family, and you enjoy the work / hours more, then I'd suggest talking to your prospective new boss about vacation time and see what you can negotiate.
 
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Old Feb 29, 2008 | 10:44 PM
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NO the job is still local and I'd make my own hours within reason...the vacation time is actuall time off. I negotiated 3 weeks from them as the standard for starting is 2, but they gave me credit for previous years worked. The commute is about 30 minutes to the office, but its mostly an outside job in ag consulting so I may end up around home, since the CEO suggested I work the area around where I live so I could be close to my kids if they needed to be picked up at school or go to baseball or even if I wanted to go home at lunch...when I used to work there I would only go into the office about 2-3 times a week first thing in the morning.

That's the other thing my current job I'm locked up indoors all day the new job would be outside mostly...when it rains we don't work too much, maybe take a client to lunch or something.

The wife is in on every aspect...the big killers money wise would be the current amount I put away for retirement and kids college...right now I put away 800.00 a month, but that would have to be much less...however the insurance would go from 800 a month to 100 for the same exact insurance.
 
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Old Feb 29, 2008 | 10:49 PM
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If you can afford the pay cut then do it. If you hate going to your job that much it eventually will bring your health down as well.

My wife makes more than double than me, but I could care less. It doesn't effect my mojo at all. I work my job strictly for the benefits. If it wasn't for them I would've gone somewhere else by now, but I've grown to really like my job and don't really look anymore for others. I love comming to work and my co-workers are all cool and drama free.
 
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Old Feb 29, 2008 | 10:55 PM
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This year my wife jumped ahead of me in income (and I do pretty well) . If things go right she may hit megabucks, in the next couple of years, if the company IPOs and / or is bought. My ego has never been bruised by her success. In fact, I keep telling her she needs to keep fighting for more $$$ so I can be a stay at home Grandpa... . She ain't buyin' it though. So don't be concerned about who makes what.

But, I have 6 weeks vacation and that would be difficult to walk away from. From the end of August thru the first week of January, every year, I never work a 5 day week with holidays and vac.

The truck, maint., and expenses makes up for a lot of lost income...only if you get rid of your existing transportation.

Tough call, but a good problem to have....good luck.
 
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Old Feb 29, 2008 | 10:59 PM
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Originally Posted by bczolone
The wife is in on every aspect...the big killers money wise would be the current amount I put away for retirement and kids college...right now I put away 800.00 a month, but that would have to be much less...however the insurance would go from 800 a month to 100 for the same exact insurance.
So there's $700 savings there, plus we'll assume you spend at least another $100 in fuel and maintenance. Where does the other $700 per month go? If you've got a vehicle payment you can part with and the fuel / maintenance bill is over $100 per month it sounds like you actually might break even with the lower pay. You'd be happier with the new (old) job and wouldn't suffer a financial hit.
 
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Old Feb 29, 2008 | 11:03 PM
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Originally Posted by bczolone
NO the job is still local and I'd make my own hours within reason...the vacation time is actuall time off. I negotiated 3 weeks from them as the standard for starting is 2, but they gave me credit for previous years worked. The commute is about 30 minutes to the office, but its mostly an outside job in ag consulting so I may end up around home, since the CEO suggested I work the area around where I live so I could be close to my kids if they needed to be picked up at school or go to baseball or even if I wanted to go home at lunch...when I used to work there I would only go into the office about 2-3 times a week first thing in the morning.

That's the other thing my current job I'm locked up indoors all day the new job would be outside mostly...when it rains we don't work too much, maybe take a client to lunch or something.

The wife is in on every aspect...the big killers money wise would be the current amount I put away for retirement and kids college...right now I put away 800.00 a month, but that would have to be much less...however the insurance would go from 800 a month to 100 for the same exact insurance.
Don't forget the money saved by not having to pay vehicle expenses..

I would go with the job you like.. What you don't see is how many years of your life you are losing from stress from your current job.. You can always do other things to supplement the lost income..
 
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Old Feb 29, 2008 | 11:11 PM
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My brother got burned at his job too, Paid leave, back to work, thought all was ok. Then bam, fired one day. This all happened last fall.

Just cuz you're back, don't think your safe.
 
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Old Feb 29, 2008 | 11:13 PM
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Originally Posted by bczolone
I hate going to work...have no motivation any longer.
What will change that?
 
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Old Feb 29, 2008 | 11:18 PM
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a new and better job will most likely always solve the problem of being burned out.

in the Navy, i got so burned out being on the boat, it seemed i had a whole new everything when i went to shore duty. the job i had was great and i never got tired of it the 3 years i was doing it until i got discharged.

so yes, having a job you like will easily help the problme of not getting burned out on the job.
 
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Old Mar 1, 2008 | 09:29 AM
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work stress can cost you alot including things in your personal life... family... wife... etc
My advice is if you can afford it to take the new job, do it if it will make you happier
 
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Old Mar 1, 2008 | 12:47 PM
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I gotta side with the train of thought that says if you're not happy with your current situation, then switch jobs. In my own situation (my town job), I'd give anything to be able to leave it. I'm dissatisfied with my lead person, the lies and backstabbing, the butt-kissing that's expected of me... pretty much everything. I'm on the lookout for a new job, because even though I've only been there about 8 months, I can tell that working there has had an effect on my health, my temper, relationships... pretty much everything else in my life. Jobs are tough to find around here, and I need this one to take care of my insurance and for the money it brings in, but I'm starting to wonder if its worth all of the hassles I put up with. In the end, you have to be happy with yourself to be happy with anyone or anything else, and so if you can make a job change that will help to do that, I say go for it.
 
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Old Mar 1, 2008 | 07:12 PM
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"If you truely love what you do you will never work a day in your life"!! Heard that saying once and believe it to be true, unfortunately for me I cannot say that I love my job.
 
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Old Mar 1, 2008 | 07:48 PM
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your pay is gonna get cut by 18 k.

theres a huge difference if you make 200k a year now, or 40k a year now

free truck, like the job, and be close to home, I'd probably spring for it,
 
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