trouble with my 460
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Overnite makes it sound more like it slipped a tooth on timing, or something is clogging the carb. Maybe a piece of junk is clogging the fuel inlet to the bowls or maybe the jets. Essentially sounds like you are not getting enough fuel or "fire".
Depending on how long it has been and what miles, it might be time to rebuild the carb, or check the timing and maybe replace the chain.
Also might check to see if the EGR is sticky. If you have a vacuum pump like the MityVac, you could attach it to the diaphram and see if the engine stumbles as you apply vacuum. Also you can usually move the vacuum with your fingers to check for stickyness.
Check the bolts on the intake manifold and carb just for fun. Once in awhile they will get loose and cause a vacuum leak.
Check the inside of the distributor cap for carbon tracking and make sure the contacts to the rotor(Do the 73 still have these?) are clean and actually making contact. Usually a carbon spring loaded button on the inside of the cap contacts the top of the rotor. I have had this wear out on other engines(not Ford).
Some distributors also require some oil once in awhile to keep the advance mechanism working. Not sure how the 73 disty is, probably all computer controlled but don't know. Most of the old disty's I have seen had a felt pad under a rubber plug inside the main shaft right under the rotor. Just pop the rotor off and take a look. If there is a plug and felt under there then it wouldn't hurt to put several drops of engine oil in there.
Plug wires in good shape?
And check vacuum lines. sometimes the rubber rots and you get a leak which dpending on which line it is, can cause all sorts of things to happen.
Good Luck,
Jim Henderson
Depending on how long it has been and what miles, it might be time to rebuild the carb, or check the timing and maybe replace the chain.
Also might check to see if the EGR is sticky. If you have a vacuum pump like the MityVac, you could attach it to the diaphram and see if the engine stumbles as you apply vacuum. Also you can usually move the vacuum with your fingers to check for stickyness.
Check the bolts on the intake manifold and carb just for fun. Once in awhile they will get loose and cause a vacuum leak.
Check the inside of the distributor cap for carbon tracking and make sure the contacts to the rotor(Do the 73 still have these?) are clean and actually making contact. Usually a carbon spring loaded button on the inside of the cap contacts the top of the rotor. I have had this wear out on other engines(not Ford).
Some distributors also require some oil once in awhile to keep the advance mechanism working. Not sure how the 73 disty is, probably all computer controlled but don't know. Most of the old disty's I have seen had a felt pad under a rubber plug inside the main shaft right under the rotor. Just pop the rotor off and take a look. If there is a plug and felt under there then it wouldn't hurt to put several drops of engine oil in there.
Plug wires in good shape?
And check vacuum lines. sometimes the rubber rots and you get a leak which dpending on which line it is, can cause all sorts of things to happen.
Good Luck,
Jim Henderson
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thanks for the input. the weather is not so good here for the next couple days, working outside. this weekend looks like sun. will be the day to try to figure it out. can i rent or borrow a furl press,guage from like advance or nottozone? more leaning towards timimg cause i tried to set dist. by ear and couldnt tell any difference no matter how far i turned it either way.
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I'm stickin with fuel pump. I've had it happen just like you described several times. I have never had a timing chain jump just 1 tooth. They always spun all the teeth off or jumped so far the engine quits and dosen't refire. I have had the distributor gear pin shear and change timing but again engine quit wouldn't refire. You say it idles and cruises fine, then the timing is close enough not to be the problem.
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Originally Posted by fdude64
well the fuel pump would be an easy fix but i dont really think it would be that cause there is no gas getting into the oil as far as i can tell. or atleast thats what has always happened to the ones i have had go bad.
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They're on the sides and you should be able to turn them. They are a needle valve so if they get tightened they will wedge themselves in real tight. This can damage them and make it hard to adjust the idle mixture. Now you say its running rich, is that all the time or just at idle. With the idle mixture screw all the way in it will give you a rich idle then get normal as you open the throttle. I'm surprised it will idle, unless you have a vacuum leak. Hmmm original complaint is leaning out under load. Did you check your fuel pressure and volume yet?
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not yet i am going to change the motor out in a month or so for another 460. i am going to be using the carb though i am thinking about getting another carb either new or rebuilt because this a daily driver. as far as running rich the exhaust pipes are coal black with lots of suet. when sitting idling there is a slight blue smoke and a strong smell of rich fuel exhaust.