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Old Feb 21, 2008 | 02:19 PM
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front sump 460

Did any factory 460 installations come with a front sump oil pan? Could you please help me out with a Year / Model so that i can track one down?
 
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Old Feb 21, 2008 | 03:32 PM
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just about every 460 came with a front sump. the only ones that didn't were the 4x4's, vans and 83 and newer pickups that came with rear (center for vans) sump pans.so any passenger car application and 79 and older pickup came with front sump pans. the pickup pans and the cobra jet pans were 6 qt pans compared to the 5 qt for cars.

they are easier to find then the rear sump pans are.

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Old Feb 21, 2008 | 03:45 PM
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Originally Posted by mcdonaldm
just about every 460 came with a front sump. the only ones that didn't were the 4x4's, vans and 83 and newer pickups that came with rear (center for vans) sump pans.so any passenger car application and 79 and older pickup came with front sump pans. the pickup pans and the cobra jet pans were 6 qt pans compared to the 5 qt for cars.

they are easier to find then the rear sump pans are.

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With that said, I guess that i missspoke and truly need a rear sump pan. (cant quite remember, so I will look under there tonight) - my motor was out of a '73 F250 2-wheel drive.
 
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Old Feb 21, 2008 | 07:38 PM
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If you are putting the motor back in the '73 2-wheel drive you will need a front sump.
 
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Old Feb 21, 2008 | 09:40 PM
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I looked at it just now. there is a front sump pan on it so i do need to find a REAR SUMP oil pan for it. Help please.
 
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Old Feb 21, 2008 | 09:52 PM
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What are you putting the motor in?
 
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Old Feb 22, 2008 | 07:27 AM
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What are you putting the motor in?
The motor is currently in a 1964 F100 2-wheel drive. With the truck lowered and a straight axle on it, i hit the bottom of the pan if not careful.
 
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Old Feb 22, 2008 | 10:06 AM
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if you need a rear sump, they are pretty easy to find.

Junkyard route - any 83 or newer Ford F250 or F350 with the 460 will have a rear sump. you will also need the pickup tube and the main cap bolt with the stud on it for holding the tube in place. also the oil pumps are different. the rear sump pickup tube enters in a different location than front sump. also look for Vans with the 460, they used more of mid sump design then the trucks.

New - ebay has lots for sale as complete kits with pan, pickup tube, bolt and uaually gaksets. around 150 - 175 complete. also any performance shop that sales Ford Motorsport products can also get these kits for you as they are sold as swap kits for 460's into Fox body cars (Mustang, Thunderbord, etc). also Canton and Milodon makes rear sump pans in a variety of different configurations and sizes. much more money, but usually has baffles built in.

also, maybe check a pan out of a car, as they are usually a little shollower then the truck pans, so they might just clear. of course you will need the corresponding pickup tube for the car pan.

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BTW yoiu can buy the rear sump kit from any ford dealer for a later model F250 4x4, comes with the pan, pickup, and dipstick tube as I recall and cost $150 last time I checked. You will need to change the oil pump too though because they use a different pump for the different pans.
 
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