http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/23219277/

PRISTINA, Kosovo - The United States formally recognized Kosovo's independence Monday, and Europe's major powers said they would do the same, setting up a confrontation with Serbia and its key ally, Russia.






its about time

sleep well pukin putin, and enjoy next weeks naval display of us shootin down a satelite. oh yeah and the missle difense system that poland is hosting for us.

 

How many orthodox Christian churches were burned to the ground during the war in Kosovo by the peace-loving muslim population of Kosovo? (some 90% of the population).

Also, since the West (NATO) sided with the muslims against the Christian Serbs during the war, ask yourself how much thanks the West has been given by the muslim world.

It was a nasty war with numerous instances of atrocities, but I feel a couple of different ways about this whole thing.

 

Since I'm Orthodox Christian and I'm originally from Serbia, I could say a lot regarding this topic.

But for all Americans that supported this USA move, let me ask you this: If Hispanic people wanted for Texas (8.4 million Hispanics) or California (13.1 million Hispanics) to become an independent country - would you give to them? Probably not. Then what makes you think you can take Kosovo from Serbia and give it to somebody else?

 

They can have California. However, I see your logic.

Mike

 

I'd rather see Ky. succeed from the union.

I too, also see Red Star's point.

 

Red..i'd answer this way....the Hispanics you speak of(that you mean) in Ca or Tx are largely Illegal. they have no right to ask for or accept independence. the legals aren't asking for independence. they appreciate what this country has afforded them.
the US didn't take anything...they chose freedom in Kosovo.

 

Let me tell you a story. Kosovo has always been part of Serbia. In fact, in 1389 entire Serbian army was killed during battle of Kosovo. That day, which is June 28 for us is what July 4 is for Americans. Albanians had their freedom in Kosovo. Nobody was forcing them to move out, but they wanted for Kosovo to become own country, not part of Serbia.
In late 1990s, Albanians in Kosovo started organizing terrorist groups and attacking Serbian villages, killing Serbian civilians and burning Serbian houses and churches. So Serbia responded by sending their troops to Kosovo. And do you know what happen next? NATO, led by USA, starts to bomb Serbia (in my opinion this has more to do with Bill Clinton's sex scandal since Hilary at that time was visiting Kosovo and Bill was to do anything to save his marriage). Although NATO claimed that bombed only military places, that wasn't true since many hospital were hit and even Chinese Embassy in Belgrade (Capital of Serbia) was hit.
Kosovo could never claimed an independence if it wasn't for USA since Kosovo can't survive on their own. Kosovo had NATO's support since day 1 and there was nothing Serbia could do about that since NATO was going to bomb Serbia again if they take actions.

 

no offense but i think you really need to read up on the history of kosovo. see all those albanian flags flying?? kind of remind you of something? give you a hint...all the mexican flags flying during the mass protest.



kosovo does not belong to the albanians.



and no, hispanics are the majority or near the majority, or a very sizable minority in those states.



what was it....the south voted for independence? ok,



now, what about all these other independence movements, are we going to support them now? would we support one of our own? seriously doubt it. i imagine if any states or part of a state wanted to withdraw from the US we would do all possible to prevent up to imprisoning everyone that would be an active part of the movement.

 

its about time, do you know anything about kosovo? russia? serbia? just wondering.

 

Red Star brings up good points.....

Again....It was a bad situation (following Croatia, Bosnia, etc.).....

But.....Again, the West took the side of the Muslims here.......What did the West get for this?......Al Qaeda attacks in the U.S. and elsewhere.......

Why DID the U.S. and NATO intervene on the side of the muslims in Kosovo vs the Christian Serbs?......For those who want to cite mass killings, or atrocities.....I hope that you're not the same persons who continuously say it's not the business of the U.S. to save the world when it's not in our best interest---in Iraq or elsewhere---Because there was no national security reason for intervention in the former Yugoslavia......

And now....With all the OTHER crap that the muslims are stirring up in Europe, here we have a brand new muslim nation in the middle of Europe---free of charge and guaranteed by the 'Christian' (but increasingly indolent and secular) West........

And at the same time the Archbishop of Canterbury is citing the 'inevitability' and 'rightness' of allowing Sharia Law along with British Common Law? Sometimes I think that the West is suicidal......

 

yep, and as of right now there is 100% evidence that there are radical elements of islam and al quaida that are using the NATO and UN protected zones as training and for gathering support. i guarentee that within the next few years, more and more terror attacks throughout europe will have orginated out of this zone.

this in my opinion is nothing more than some vatican backed recognition, i am a firm beleiver in the vaticans anti-orthodox crusade, it has been going on for centuries and will continue in any shape and form.

kosovo is serbian territory, it will remain so.

red star...agree with you 100%.

 

I'm thinking that if we don't take care of the situation real soon, we're probably looking at regional war and hundreds of thousands of deaths when parts of those States DO try to claim independence.......

Certainly under MY administration .....You're loyal?....You'll be fine....You're in rebellion?.....You'll die.....You remain disloyal?......Think mass exodus (like the Germans from western Poland and East Prussia after WWII.......)

The United States of America will remain the United States of America---Period!........

 

what i don't understand is this whole recognition process. we (as in the world community) seem to value the UN and order on one hand and promote unilateral policy on the other. sort of like 2 trains pulling each other. why bother having the UN?

also, i do not see how anyone can think that a bunch of people somewhere somehow establishes themselves as a new nation. but only kosovo for some reason retains this right. we have taiwan, tibet, the kurds, basque, on and on.

no one seems to mention all the albanian flags, those are albanians wanting a section of serbia, they are not "kosovoians" or anythng else. its as if all of a sudden a bunch of cubans in little havana all of a sudden wanted an independent state...well they, as do the albanians already have one. for the cubans its cuba and for the albainians its albania.

it interesting as to why other countries decided to recognize this, not all of course have or will. the UK is already facing an increasing separist support. turkey, we all know the kurd situation, how can turkey recognize kosovo when they have in thier borders the largest nation without a state?

the US with its history should be very aware of separist policies. the south did vote to succeed...right? sure, it is a long time ago and not really applicable but to think...would we allow it now? do not think so. heck, counties can't even legally separate from a state to form their own. and what about the native americans, would the US be the first to recongnize an independent navjo?

 

Anyone watching CNN?

I can't say I'm surprised this is happening.

 

looks like serbs gone wild part 1 to me