2 valve or 3?
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2 valve or 3?
Hello all, I'm new to this forum but have read a lot and have also learned a lot. I bought my first Ford almost 5 months ago now. 2003 F-250 V10 CC 4X4 shortbed 4.30LS with stock 2006 20" rims. I LOVE this truck by the way!!! When I bought the truck it had a very noticable lifter knock. previous owner said he heard the knock one day and checked the oil to find it was 4.5 quarts low. I took it to a mechanic before purchasing and he told me it would probably run another 100k miles the way it was. Since I've had it I change the oil every 1500 miles and used a quart of lucas to replace one of the6 quarts of 5-20. within two months the lifter knock was almost completely gone, and I've put around 15k miles on it since I bought it. Today I pulled into the driveway to hear the dreaded "rod knock" So it's time for a new motor. Forgive me for blabbering on but here is the reason for the post.
Should I buy a 2 valve set up or should I find the 3 vavle to replace? Any suggestions?
Should I buy a 2 valve set up or should I find the 3 vavle to replace? Any suggestions?
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I think the 2V is the best bet. Here's why.
1. Cheaper. The 3V will cost more initally, has totally different packaging under the hood, you'll need a new PCM and that one probably won't work with your tranny.
1. Cheaper. The 3V will cost more initally, has totally different packaging under the hood, you'll need a new PCM and that one probably won't work with your tranny.
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As Ken says above, keep it apples to apples, stick with what you brought to the dance. The 2V is a very good motor, the 3v is only an improvement on what wasn't broke in the first place for the most part. The 2v, I believe will give you a few extra miles per tank full of over priced fuel. Not to mention that is some time in the future you want to sell it or trade it, some people feel a little stand-off-ish of motor swap conditions.
Just my two cents,
Just my two cents,
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You would probably have to notch the frame some to fit the 3V in. The exhaust manifolds are quite a bit wider on the 3V than the 2V logs.
I would stick with the 2V and try to stick the Torqueshift behind it in place of the 4R100. Of course than wouldn't be a simple drop in eaither.
I would stick with the 2V and try to stick the Torqueshift behind it in place of the 4R100. Of course than wouldn't be a simple drop in eaither.
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Thanks for all the advice. I didn't realize there was that much different between the two. I was under the assumption that it was only the heads and intake. So i'll be sticking with the two valve.
Sent the truck north to alabama a few hours ago. I know some reliable people there that will rebuild the motor for me. Untill then I'm stuck driving this stinky loud diesel. 2005 350 CC DRW long bed 6.0 diesel.
Sent the truck north to alabama a few hours ago. I know some reliable people there that will rebuild the motor for me. Untill then I'm stuck driving this stinky loud diesel. 2005 350 CC DRW long bed 6.0 diesel.
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Originally Posted by Richard_cranium
Well after doing some serious research on this site I discovered a post that discussed the price of a reman engine at a Ford dealer. The post quoted $3,000 I was looking at paying $2,700 for a USED engine with a thirty day warranty then having someone else install it for $650.00 no warranty. To have the local stealer do it complete job with reman motor it's a total price of $4,400.00 with the 3yr/75K mile warranty on parts and labor. I would have NEVER checked the stealers price if it wouldn't have been for this site and the posters here. Thank you all so much!!
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The whole V10 reman motor costs a tad more than a new turbo and a set of injectors for a diesel.
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Originally Posted by dkf
Thats a good price for a Reman with a warrenty. I thought it would cost more.
The whole V10 reman motor costs a tad more than a new turbo and a set of injectors for a diesel.
The whole V10 reman motor costs a tad more than a new turbo and a set of injectors for a diesel.
The motor by itself is only 3,300 the rest is labor
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