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Old Feb 17, 2008 | 12:36 PM
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duel tanks

I was hoping that someone might be able to shed a little light for me. I have a 92' F-150 with the 5.8l and duel tanks. The problem that I have is that the front tank is not working. When I shift tanks the level changes, but it will start to idle ruff, and then the check engine light will come on and I won't be able to accelerate. I am not sure if it is a problem with the fuel pump, or if it could possibly be the fuel tank select valve.
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Old Feb 17, 2008 | 01:13 PM
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I suspect the front tank fuel pump as that truck doesn't have a selector valve, test the fuel pressure at the fuel rail when switching tanks to confirm.
 
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Old Feb 17, 2008 | 01:21 PM
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If that is the culprit, is the pump for the rear tank that same as the one for the front tank? I am going to assume that I am going to have to drop the tank to get to the pump as well.
 
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Old Feb 17, 2008 | 04:01 PM
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Both pumps are different.
 
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Old Feb 17, 2008 | 04:06 PM
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Likely the front fuel pump starting to go out. This is a common problem with these trucks. The pump is a "fuel module" if I remember Ford's terminology right and is located in the tank. The good news is you have another tank to run on until it's fixed...
 
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Old Feb 17, 2008 | 10:23 PM
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Originally Posted by 86caprirs
Both pumps are different.
Actually the pump modules are the same, but the hard lines at the top may be shaped a little different. That's not an issue however as the hard line assembly unplugs from the resovoir so it can be swapped to another, and the resovoir comes apart so you could just change the actual pump and retain the original resovoir and hardline assembly.
 
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Old Feb 17, 2008 | 11:39 PM
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Thanks for the knowledge. The family and I are moving from Alaska to Wisconsin in a couple of months and if I am going to drive the truck I would like to have both tanks working.
Now I just have to find the pump. We only have 3 part stores in town, and unfortunatly we can only take a boat or a plane to the next town.
 
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Old Feb 18, 2008 | 04:55 AM
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Red face Hesitation not good?

I have dual tanks and only one give fuel guage info, just kept count of miles and used it as a backup has worked well until the other day.
1996 F150 straight 6, std. transmission with +180,000 miles, kept tuned up.
Two months ago it started to hesitate or jerk “once” while driving. Similar to when having; not notice fuel levels and having to switch tanks on the move. Then yesterday it did not start until I switched tanks, then it jerked twice while driving to the store. But that was it until this morning. Similar issue, would not start until switching back to the other tank. This is going to be painful isn’t it?

Have a great week,

Morgan
 
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Old Feb 21, 2008 | 02:44 PM
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I was looking around and found differant pumps. I was wondering if this is would be the right pump? ACDELCO Part # 43103 {MECHANICAL #12356976}
PUMP,FUEL 19 GALLON REAR PLASTIC TANK
PUMP,FUEL 17 OR 19 GALLON CENTER STEEL TANK
 
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Old Feb 22, 2008 | 05:29 AM
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Thank you, mksnipe.
I will drive by the parts store and talk to them today.
Enjoy your weekend.
 
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Old Feb 22, 2008 | 08:25 PM
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yeah right, 72 hour shift this weekend
not fun, crab season opener
 
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Originally Posted by Conanski
Actually the pump modules are the same, but the hard lines at the top may be shaped a little different. That's not an issue however as the hard line assembly unplugs from the resovoir so it can be swapped to another, and the resovoir comes apart so you could just change the actual pump and retain the original resovoir and hardline assembly.
The modules are not the same front and rear. They are shaped differently and the location of the fuel pickup (where the screen is) is different. This is due to the shape of the tanks. The rear tank's pump sits almost verticle while the front tank is at an angle. If you look up a front and rear fuel pump for it they have different part numbers (sending unit excluded). Also, that isn't a reservoir its a fuel pump module I believe they like to call it. You can take that apart and get the actual pump out but parts stores do not sell just that pump alone and it's a special pump so you can't really get it separtely. You buy the whole module.

The hardline assembly you speak of is the sending unit.
 

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Old Feb 23, 2008 | 08:18 AM
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This fuel issue is getting more confusing as time goes on. In the mornings I am having start up issues; seems to make no difference if the truck is headed uphill or downhill. I hear each pump start or kick–in when switching from one tank to another. But it takes about 12 to 15 tries to hear one of the pumps actually sucking or pumping fuel to the engine in which it then starts. I have had no problems during the day as after work or church, just in the mornings.
Being I know very little of such matters; might there be a slight leak causing fuel to run back into the tank, but then again why the problem of fuel pick in the morning?
Thank y’all for your help.
 
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Old Feb 29, 2008 | 11:04 PM
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finaly had time to replace the pump. Not too bad. Tank came out easy, pump went in easy, the only problem was the fill hose. It didn't want to stay on the tank. Once I got that taken care of it all runs like a champ. All in all it took me a little over an hour and a half to complete.
 
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Old Mar 1, 2008 | 01:54 PM
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Originally Posted by MustangGT221
The modules are not the same front and rear. They are shaped differently and the location of the fuel pickup (where the screen is) is different.
I guess I need to clarify what I said.. as it was accurate. The resovoirs(plastic tank thing) are the same shape and size. The pump contained inside is the same. It's the hard line assembly and fuel level float that differs depending upon what tank and year vehicle you have. In all cases the whole assembly comes apart so the pump itself can be replaced without buying a whole new assembly, several popular manufacturers make replacement pumps, and some of the high volume aftermarket pumps will also fit. Here's an exploded view of a '90 pump.



Here are a couple pics of 2 different sender assemblys I have for parts, a '90 and '96, you can clearly see the difference in the electrical connections and hardline assemblys. These can be swapped around of course, the resovoir with it's pump that came with the '96 is currently in the rear tank of my truck, I just swapped the hardline assembly onto it and plugged it back into my tank.



 
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