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Old Feb 17, 2008 | 08:15 AM
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I will be changing over to Shell syn. 5w40 at my next oil change, I would like to know especialy from the colder climate guys like MN. etc. can I use this year round? I put a 10 1/2' pick up camper on in the summer and plan on going out west with the higher temp. out west will the syn. still be a good choice? Also since I will be changing over do I need to try to get the Dino out of the HPOP or will it be okay.
 
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Old Feb 17, 2008 | 09:44 AM
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I use the 5w-40 syn in the winter but I have never used it in the summer so I can't say for sure. It is 40 weight oil so it should be fine for summer, the 5w is the number you look at for cooler weather operation. I have been just switching back between 15w and 5w depending on the season.
 
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Old Feb 17, 2008 | 10:50 AM
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not a problem hear in minnesota. imo it's the best all-around oil.
i change at 5000 mil/ due to short trip's on week end's




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Old Feb 17, 2008 | 02:21 PM
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You can certainly use the 5w40 year around in MN. I use a 5w40 year around here in TN. Like mentioned above. The 5 stand for winter weight. In other words you will get better cold cranking ability with that weight of oil. The oil will still a viscosity of a 40 weight when fully warmed up.
 
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Old Feb 17, 2008 | 02:31 PM
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I suck the HPO reservoir dry every change regardless of what oil im putting back in. Thats a quart of dirty oil that's so easy to get at, that you can drain out and not have mix back in with the clean oil. But just remember, you may need to buy an extra quart, as youre taking another quart out that's not normally being taken out. Just remember to fill it back up, and i like to unplug my CPS and crank the engine for 10 seconds to get it lubed before i fire it up for the first time on a new oil change.
 
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Old Feb 17, 2008 | 02:34 PM
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Originally Posted by jrciii56
You can certainly use the 5w40 year around in MN. I use a 5w40 year around here in TN. Like mentioned above. The 5 stand for winter weight. In other words you will get better cold cranking ability with that weight of oil. The oil will still a viscosity of a 40 weight when fully warmed up.
Actually the W stands for water, as it being 5 times the viscosity of water when cold (flows better), but when hot it has 40 times the viscosity of water.
 
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Old Feb 17, 2008 | 02:35 PM
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Kris, That is great piece of advice. How do you drain the reservoir? Where is the drain plug?
 
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Old Feb 17, 2008 | 02:38 PM
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The plug is on the top of the reservoir, it takes a 3/16" allen wrench. Find a tube that can go in the hole, and either suck it out with an extractor or siphon it out, there should be a quart or so, but dont worry youre not going to get all of it all the time.
 
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Old Feb 17, 2008 | 02:54 PM
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With 5W/40 oil, isn't the base oil a thin 5W and modifiers are added to make it behave like 40W? As the oil breaks down from use and heat doesn't it revert back to the thin 5W?
 
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Old Feb 17, 2008 | 02:57 PM
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No, newer oils are a Multigrade oil, with the w seperating them, signifying that the first number is how the oil will act when cold ( thin is good for startup, the oil flows to the bearings quicker, in the case of our powerstrokes it also starts smoother due to the injection system), and the oil acts as a thicker 40 weight oil to support high engine loads on the bearings.
 
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Old Feb 17, 2008 | 03:08 PM
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Not to start a pissing contest, but I always thought the w stand for winter. Check out these links. The first one explains how it came about.

http://www.sae.org/news/rightoil.htm
https://mmsynthetics.com/FAQ.php
http://www.hascooil.com/faq/#p27
http://www.gulflubricants.co.uk/prod/faq3.html#29
 
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Old Feb 17, 2008 | 03:12 PM
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When they build engine oils, they start with a 5, 10, or 15 weight oil. They then add man made polymers to give it a viscosity of what ever oil is says on the oil. Example in a 15w40. They start with a 15 weight oil. Once the oil heats up it change viscosity to a 40 weight. The polymers are what change the viscosity.
 
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Old Feb 17, 2008 | 03:37 PM
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Originally Posted by jrciii56
Not to start a pissing contest, but I always thought the w stand for winter. Check out these links. The first one explains how it came about.

http://www.sae.org/news/rightoil.htm
https://mmsynthetics.com/FAQ.php
http://www.hascooil.com/faq/#p27
http://www.gulflubricants.co.uk/prod/faq3.html#29
My fault, you're right. I went and looked back through the lube section of my diesel tech book, and i saw "W denotes winter". Youre right, i'm wrong, again.
 
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Old Feb 17, 2008 | 03:39 PM
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No problem. I am wrong on here a lot more than I am right.
 
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Old Feb 17, 2008 | 04:24 PM
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That's one of the things I love about this forum. You can make mistakes or be wrong about something and you're not crucified. Lord knows I've made enough mistakes, but I always admit when I do because I know most folks here aren't ready start swinging the ax.
 
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