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Old Feb 10, 2008 | 05:15 PM
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Unhappy Soft Brakes

95 F250 PSD (Brake booster has 500 mi. on it)...The brakes are working, but the pedal is REALLY soft. I think it is a vaccum leak, but I would love to see if anyone has any ideas on how to check and what to do if it is.
 
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Old Feb 10, 2008 | 05:57 PM
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Low or no vacuum will cause a hard pedal. Sounds like the master cylinder is bad.
 
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Old Feb 10, 2008 | 06:07 PM
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Is your brake light on? Does your cruise control work?
 
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Old Feb 10, 2008 | 08:32 PM
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yep vacuum leak will cause a hard pedal. Are the rear brakes adjusted up tight? Any brake work been done lately where there may be air in the system?
 
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Old Feb 10, 2008 | 08:50 PM
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yep vacuum leak will cause a hard pedal. Are the rear brakes adjusted up tight? Any brake work been done lately where there may be air in the system?
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Will also add moisture in the system.
A bad master the pedal would fall.

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Old Feb 10, 2008 | 08:54 PM
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Is your brake light on? Does your cruise control work?
Just wondering what would the cruise control have to do with it?
 
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Old Feb 10, 2008 | 10:14 PM
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Yes the cruise works great and no the brake light is not on. Also I replaced the check valve @ the booster. The pedal will come back up after the brake is released, just not quite as fast as it should. The guy I bought it from said something about the actuator for the damper control under the dash @ the climate control??? I was going to pull each vaccum line from the tree and plug them one at a time to see if that will help, that way if one is bad I'll know which one and I can replace it. I am also going to bleed the brake system asap to see if that changes anything.
 

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Old Feb 11, 2008 | 02:39 AM
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Just wondering what would the cruise control have to do with it?
One of the inputs to the PCM module is the line going to the brake warning light. If this line is grounded, the cruse control is disabled.

If the warning light is burned out and one of the things that turns the light on is activated, then the only sign will be a non-functional cruse control.

Low fluid, the parking brake, or low vacuum can all trigger the lamp and disable cruise control.
 
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Old Feb 11, 2008 | 02:41 AM
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Yep, a bad damper in the climate control could do it. The vacuum switch triggers at a real low vacuum - by the time the light comes on, the vacuum is way down.
 
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Old Feb 11, 2008 | 07:27 AM
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But low vacuum will produce a hard pedal. Low/no vacuum=no power brakes. So can assure you that if your pedal is soft you do not have a vacuum issue. You either have a bad master cylinder, air in the system, moisture in the system, rear brakes out of adjustment, a leak, or a bad RABS valve.
 
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Old Feb 11, 2008 | 01:46 PM
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Thanks guys...ya'll are always helpful. I'll give some of these things a try and let you know.
 
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