Need Help w/ V10 Missing Shop Can't Fix
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Need Help w/ V10 Missing Shop Can't Fix
Working 2500 miles from home, brought F250 V10 in for tune up new plugs, etc. they somhow cracked the intake. Replaced on their dime. Started missing at around 40 mph, shaking the whole truck. brought it back, codes said "random misfire" and "insufficent exhaust recirculation" they pulled the throtle body and cleaned some port ran an injector cleaner thru at the air cleaner assembly. ran great for about 1/2 hour then missing again. brought back, they changed a module that controls EGR. No differance runs awful, missing all the time now. I just pulled the clamp at the air filter a huge amont of fluid ran out. I assume the injector cleaner them pumped in.
I'm running low on cash or I would have it towed to nearest ford dealer about 1-1/2 hour don't trust truck to make it.
Any Ideas I could pass on to these guys so they can get this fixed would be appreciated.
I should be on my way home but I'm kinda stuck here.
Thanks,
I'm running low on cash or I would have it towed to nearest ford dealer about 1-1/2 hour don't trust truck to make it.
Any Ideas I could pass on to these guys so they can get this fixed would be appreciated.
I should be on my way home but I'm kinda stuck here.
Thanks,
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did they hook everything back up to the egr valve? also have them check egr valve, should hold vacuum with 4-8psi. i don't know how the injector cleaner would make its way back up the intake, you'd think with the motor sucking it would be pulled into the cylinders. they probably replaced the DPFE switch, which is usually the culprit with the "insufficient egr flow" code, but usually doesn't cause a runability issue. What kind of fluid came out of the filter? may try throwing a new clean filter on it. do you have a K&N filter on her? if so try cleaning the maf sensor. are you getting a sweet smell from the tailpipe? I'm wondering if that intake didn't get put back on right. And check that elbow on the back of the intake that goes to your pcv valve, they may have cracked it when pulling it off and this won't throw any codes usually. Good luck, sounds like a crappy situation!
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Thanks for the suggestions. The fluid there I think because the guy putting itin (it was a BG Brand) said he could not place the hose where it should go. had to install it way up by the filter. I now wish I had gone right to Ford.
It does appear that every thing is hooked up
What is the maf sensor, in the filter body I guess, clean it with what?
The really odd thing is that it ran great for a short time after they ran the injector cleaner then all hell broke loose.
Anyway thanks again for the input.
It does appear that every thing is hooked up
What is the maf sensor, in the filter body I guess, clean it with what?
The really odd thing is that it ran great for a short time after they ran the injector cleaner then all hell broke loose.
Anyway thanks again for the input.
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Oh, to answer another of you questions. The sweet smell at the tail pipe. Not sure about the smell but have noticed moisture dripping from it which it never has before, also in the morning when I first pull on hwy. a cloud from the tail pipe until truck warms up. I have told the mechanics of this if they know what it means there not telling me.
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thanks, again
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excessive white smoke and moisture would be telltale signs they put your intake in wrong or did a halfass job of repairing the crack. The guys are idiots imo if they put the fuel injector cleaner in the air filter housing, it wouldn't get to the injectors, they're on their own rails. the maf sensor can be cleaned after taking the filter shell off, it'll be in the tubing upstream of the filter. they make a special spray you can spray in there to clean the element. It sounds to me like they put the intake back on wrong, just my .02.
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Thanks, guys.
I did ask if that was possible if there were any coolant ports in the intake that could be blowing back into combustion, They told me "not on the upper intake only the lower" I guess you might know what that means. I'm a carpenter, no mechanic.
Guess I'm screwed. I'll get it to the ford dealer onr maybe ask around about a more reputable shop and have them look at it.
Thanks agajn so much for the responses.
Alan
I did ask if that was possible if there were any coolant ports in the intake that could be blowing back into combustion, They told me "not on the upper intake only the lower" I guess you might know what that means. I'm a carpenter, no mechanic.
Guess I'm screwed. I'll get it to the ford dealer onr maybe ask around about a more reputable shop and have them look at it.
Thanks agajn so much for the responses.
Alan
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Originally Posted by amollere
Oh, to answer another of you questions. The sweet smell at the tail pipe. Not sure about the smell but have noticed moisture dripping from it which it never has before, also in the morning when I first pull on hwy. a cloud from the tail pipe until truck warms up. I have told the mechanics of this if they know what it means there not telling me.
thanks, again
thanks, again
However, it only happens when the temp is below 40 degrees or so. If it's warmer than that, and still steaming, it's probably a mechanical failure in the engine.
(just to be clear; steam from the tailpipe is not necessarily an idicator of a problem. however, in this case, it's likely since there's a smell of (likely) coolant in the exhaust as well.)
-blaine
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Some places just don't know how to adequately diagnose cars/trucks and that is sad.
We had a Saturn towed into the shop the other day after a shop having it for 2 weeks. They have replaced the fuel pump and the coilpack because it won't start. That was what they came up with in 2 weeks of diagnosis. In 5 minutes we found out that the tensioner or a guide for the timing chain broke. They thought a motor with no compression needed a fuel pump
. I hope you get your truck fixed soon and the shop makes good on it for you especially since you went there for a tune-up.
We had a Saturn towed into the shop the other day after a shop having it for 2 weeks. They have replaced the fuel pump and the coilpack because it won't start. That was what they came up with in 2 weeks of diagnosis. In 5 minutes we found out that the tensioner or a guide for the timing chain broke. They thought a motor with no compression needed a fuel pump
. I hope you get your truck fixed soon and the shop makes good on it for you especially since you went there for a tune-up.
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if it ran fine before they touched it I would have to say you got an intake leak,do you know did they use new intake gaskets,did they torque the intake properly,I would like to know what in the world they did to crack the intake doing a tuneup.
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Originally Posted by rich250
if it ran fine before they touched it I would have to say you got an intake leak,do you know did they use new intake gaskets,did they torque the intake properly,I would like to know what in the world they did to crack the intake doing a tuneup.