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Old Feb 8, 2008 | 12:23 PM
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I appreciate all of the help guys. I bought the 1212 and the Napa filter base (4770) for it. I had to run halfway across town to a hydroloic shop to find the fittings though. FYI the Baldwin base is about $10 cheaper, but they did not have it in stock at my local distributor.
 
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Old Feb 8, 2008 | 12:38 PM
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Originally Posted by F250_
Not having the lift pump should not be a problem even if the filter starts plugging. It's just that you'll see fuel flow restrictions earlier with a weak pump.

When it comes to pumps, any extra suction restriction will place an extra load on any pump. Short term, no issue. Long term, depends on the pump and how often you run it with restricted suction side flow. You'll probably be fine running without the lift pump. A lot of guys do that and seem to have no trouble.

Me, on the other hand, well... I honestly tend to over-engineer everything I do (like getting a waterproof in-line fuse holder for the 1 amp fuse I'll be using to wire my GP LED mod under the hood).
Pete, you are correct. I worried at first about not having a lift pump, but installing the fuel pressure gauge put those worries to rest. it sits at ~70 all the time. even at WOT i have not seen it under 65.

its also helpful in letting me know when it is time to change filters, as the readings will become rather erratic.

say it with me: gauges, gauges, gauges!
 
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Old Feb 8, 2008 | 01:15 PM
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Dennis at ITP maintains that a helper pump is not needed. I have an email with this if you really need me to prove it
 
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Old Feb 8, 2008 | 01:54 PM
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...say it with me: gauges, gauges, gauges!
I rank that right up there with this one of my own...


...filtration, filtration, filtration!
 
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Old Feb 8, 2008 | 02:13 PM
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Scott,

If the fuel pump already has a problem, the filter "might" help bring it to light. That filter presents next to no restriction to the pump, <1psi of pressure drop at 200gph, the stock pump moves about 35gph. I have a ton of those filters out there with no problems at all.

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Old Feb 8, 2008 | 04:10 PM
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Originally Posted by F250_
I rank that right up there with this one of my own...


...filtration, filtration, filtration!
yep, i'm debating ordering a coolant filtration system, external tranny filter system, and probably an oil bypass system as well.

guess i've run out of things to do to my truck. dang, when those are in, changing filters is going to pricy.
 
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Old Feb 8, 2008 | 05:27 PM
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... dang, when those are in, changing filters is going to pricy.
Maybe you'll be as fortunate as I am with the kids' and wife's birthdays... spread out throughout the year.... 1 in Jan, 1 in Feb, 1 in June, 2 in July, 1 in Sept, 1 in Dec, and mine's in Oct.
 
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Old Feb 8, 2008 | 05:34 PM
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i'm thinking coolant first, since it's the most affordable.
 
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Would moving the stock pump before the itp/baldwin filter base be of any help. I recently did my intank mods along with a baldwin 1212 filter and was thinking of plumbing the system to where the pump draws fuel from tank, then pushes fuel into the baldwin base rather then suck from it. So it would be (tank-pump-baldwin-fuel bowl).

I thought about this after reading through all of kwiks intank pump mod.....
 
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Old Feb 12, 2008 | 05:25 PM
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Would moving the stock pump before the itp/baldwin filter base be of any help. I recently did my intank mods along with a baldwin 1212 filter and was thinking of plumbing the system to where the pump draws fuel from tank, then pushes fuel into the baldwin base rather then suck from it. So it would be (tank-pump-baldwin-fuel bowl).

I thought about this after reading through all of kwiks intank pump mod.....
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[font='Arial','sans-serif']If the fuel pump already has a problem, the filter "might" help bring it to light. That filter presents next to no restriction to the pump, <1psi of pressure drop at 200gph, the stock pump moves about 35gph. I have a ton of those filters out there with no problems at all.[/font]<o></o>

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[font='Arial','sans-serif']Some guys like the helper pump deal, but you have to put the helper AFTER the filter (between the filter and the factory pump). The Baldwin water separator is designed to be on the suction side, it won't remove any water on the pressure side.[/font]<o></o>

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Old Feb 12, 2008 | 05:26 PM
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I guess it pasted like ___, but you can still read it.
 
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