Can someone please tell me what I have, I too have a book that says C9VE-A is a CJ head, but after reading some past threads im not sure anymore. Heres what I have, heads are C9VE-A ---the block is C9VE-B --- and the pistons are CS8E. Im not sure if this helps, I can get any more numbers you may need 'cause we tore it down this weekend, I was just wondering what it is I have. Also does anyone know if I need a front or rear sump oil pan to put this monster in a 66 pickup ? Thanks for any light you can shine on this subject.

 

My book (Monroe) says the same thing. I'd measure the valves and see what size they are.

 

hi, what you have is a basic standard 429/460 engine. there is ONLY one casting number for the 429 c.j. head, again that number is D0OE-R, and nothing else. there is no such casting numbers for the 429 c.j. as C9VE-A, OR D0AE-H. look at your pistons you took out of the block, if it's a complete stock factory block that has never been touched the pistons will be stamped with either a 429 or a 460 on it, standard engine nothing special other than it is a high compression motor at least 10:5.1 .. here's somthing else for ya to test, look at your cylinder head, look at the 3 top valve cover bolt holes if it's a true c.j. head the 2 outside bolt holes are taped right through the head and into the intake runner so you should be able to drop a tooth pick clean through for instance. if you were to run an engine such as a 429c.j. with one of these bolts missing you would have an extreme vacuum leak. and the valve sizes are as follows and these are taken right out of the ford repair manual, (remember these are fords specs.) intake valve is for a 429 c.j. and a p.i. is 2.242 and the exhaust is 1.722. and the 429 s.c.j. is as follows for the intake 2.248 and the exhaust is 1.728. these are the correct numbers NOTHING ELSE ok. and if your still not convinced here is a phone number for perogie enterprises in hightstown n.j. they only deal in ford parts and they also can tell you what you need,ok? here's the phone number 1-609-448-1684, and there web site is perogie1(No Email Addresses In Posts!) .... there are to many books out there that have bogus numbers in them and you just can't trust them, they make good paper for starting a fireplace. i hope you are less confused now. later C.J.

 

Wow, Thanks for the info, after I posted this morning I went to the book store and picked up another book, this time it says exactly the same as cobrajet said it was. Also my pistons are stamped with 429 along with CS8E. So now I have something to start fires on those cold nights( the old book),and what seems to be a pretty accurate book to go by. I guess since I dont have anything special, other than a regular 429, I need to order a stroker kit, gas card, and open an account at the tire store, for when I get it in the ole 66. Now the only other question is do I need a front or rear sump oil pan?
Tommy

 

The book by Tom Monroe is known to have many mistakes. Overall it is a good book, but the casting number info is not accurate. D0OE-R is the only CJ/SCJ head. C9's are not CJ and they are not very rare. I've got a set of those and a set of D0VE's too. Neither are CJ heads as some would claim.

 

>The book by Tom Monroe is
>known to have many mistakes.

As many as Ganahls...?

 

if it has a four bolt main then you know it is a cj

 

Didn't some truck blocks come with four bolt mains? When I say truck I mean 2 ton and up trucks, not 1/2, 3/4 or one tons. I know they put 429 engines in big trucks for many years, like up into the 80's.

 

well, to my knowledge youll need a rear sump pan, and ford motorsport makes one with the pickup included. but see what others say too, cuz im not 100% sure. hope this helps,
mike

 

I'D SAY YOU HAVE A CJ, I THINK THERE ARE DIFFERNT TYPES(MODELS). I KNOW THAT THE CJ HAS BIGGER VALVES THAN STOCK 429 HEADS,SUCH AS THE MOTOR IN MY TRUCK. I'LL BET HOTROD MAG. CAN RUN THOSE NUMBERS FOR YOU THOUGH. ALSO, YEAR ONE CATALOG CAN PROBABLY TELL YOU ABOUT THE PAN.

 

IT IS NOT A CJ. I hate to yell, but jeez. I have a set of C9 heads in my garage right now. I'll sell them to anyone right now for a "CJ" price, if they want. Once again, the only CJ heads are D0OE-R. Now we also have to remember that these parts we are talking about are 25-30 years old. A lot can be done in that time. I have a set of D3's that are going on my truck that have 2.25/1.72 valves in them. Does that make them CJ's? NO! It just makes them cheapo D3's that have had some work done to them. Let's say you find a set of heads that has huge ports and the large valves, they may or may not be CJ's. Maybe someone just did a ton of port work to them and also had large valves installed. Many people have done that exact thing over the years. It has to say D0OE-R to be a CJ/SCJ head.

 

c.j. heads have the small dia. spark plugs also.

 

No, CJ heads don't have small plugs. A friend of mine has a mud racing truck with a CJ motor and he show'd me the size differance between the CJ heads plugs and the plugs from the regular 429 that came in the truck I bought from him. The CJ plugs are HUGE!

 

I know I probably missed something, but I was wondering if you knew of some goo books for the 429. Im new to Fords(previous Chevy junky), and next spring(about a year from now) I want to do a strong build up on the 429 in my 4x4. Im still not sure how I want to build it, mild to wild really. I do know I want to do it right. I don't want to miss, second guess, or even go by hearsay. Everything must be perfect, even if it's just a buget mild build. I'd like to start with a basic stock rebuild book for the ignerant, then ckeck out some that are more indepth for performance. Mainly i'm conserned books that with tell me wrong, thereby causeing me to make an eireversible mistake. I apreciate any help that ANYONE can give me. So long as it's ACCURATE.

 

The book by Tom Monroe is "okay". You just have to realize that it does have some mistakes. The mistakes are in the parts interchange info as well as some of the specs of certain parts. As far as the technical aspects of the book of removing, reconditioning, and reinstalling an engine, it is a good book. There is another book by Pat Gannahl, I think. I can't remember his name off of the top of my head, but I'll figure that out for sure and let you know. Anyway, it is a good book. When it come to the engine you are going to build, the first thing you MUST do is decide what level of performance you are shooting for. This is essential as you must plan for an engine combination rather than a simple collection of high performance yet mismatched parts. Hope this helps. LMK if you have any particular concerns.