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Old Feb 4, 2008 | 02:32 PM
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Auto Hub Vacuum Leak

Ok. 2000 f250 diesel. Did ball joints and a hub last summer (thanks for the help on the ball joints, guys).
Right hub has vacuum leak. I replaced the hub while doing the joints. It had a new o-ring on it. I have verified the leak is coming from the axle side of the knuckle. I just want to verify what seals the inside of the knuckle. Is it the large pressed on metal seal on the axle? Don't under stand how a rotating seal can seal vacuum, please enlighten me. Any hints on replacing this seal ?(don't know how it could have gotten damaged, did not distort it during the job).
Anyway, I thought I'd ask all for input. And thanks again.
 
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Old Feb 4, 2008 | 04:38 PM
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Before you tear into the hub, have you checked the vacuum hose?
 
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Old Feb 4, 2008 | 05:02 PM
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Yep. Check and replace hoses thruout for the heck of it. Using the pump, a hand vacuum pump, clamps to isolate, etc. I found it to be a problem only in the hub. I pulled the hub apart, verified the new o-ring was ok, re greased. I cleaned the inside of the knuckle, cleaned out the fitting. Still leaks when I hand pump at the hub. Pretty sure the only thing sealing the back of the knuckle is the metal axle seal, just wanted some feedback to reinforce my findings before I go visit the Ford parts guys.
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Old Feb 5, 2008 | 11:54 AM
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Anyone? Please don't let me down for the first time EVER!!
Surely someone knows. What seals the vacuum on the inner half of the knuckle?
 
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Old Feb 5, 2008 | 02:00 PM
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See if THIS helps. Shows the tear down and repair of the hubs.
 
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Old Feb 5, 2008 | 06:06 PM
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ttt. I havent torn into my system yet to completely understand its operation - so I'm interested....
 
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Old Feb 5, 2008 | 06:34 PM
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YZ250 I like that so much. I put it in my favorites. I just hope I can find a full day to do a maintenance. I have been told that the hubs are non-serviceable and non-re-buildable. I guess it was a good night to be on truck enthusiast, very useful information.
 
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Old Feb 5, 2008 | 06:50 PM
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YZ250 I like that so much. I put it in my favorites. I just hope I can find a full day to do a maintenance. I have been told that the hubs are non-serviceable and non-re-buildable. I guess it was a good night to be on truck enthusiast, very useful information.
Well, that's zx250 or Barry and yes Guzzle is one of my heros when it comes the SuperDutys and 7.3s. He has a great site (http://guzzle.rbmicro.com/) with lots of good reading. He's been in my favorites for a long time now. He is always looking and working to find better ways to service our trucks. He is also a member of FTE and stops by once in a while to share his thoughts with us.
 
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Old Feb 5, 2008 | 07:02 PM
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Motorcycles on my mind and thank you for the info. I will put that site my favorites
 
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Old Feb 5, 2008 | 07:19 PM
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Thanks for the effort, but still not the right area. This is what I need-



I really appreciate the efforts. I am pretty sure that's the seal I need, but it's pricey so just want to be sure.

Thanks again.
 
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Old Feb 5, 2008 | 07:33 PM
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Sorry I can't help you but you should smoke that cigar before he gets smashed.
 
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Old Feb 5, 2008 | 07:39 PM
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Lariatbob, look at guzzles site (link above) at the needle bearing service and I think you will find your answer. It looks to be a yellow oring.
 
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Old Feb 5, 2008 | 08:09 PM
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that large seal is what seals the back side of the knuckle so if the yellow o-ring is not the problem of the leak then it is the large seal,yeah it's a **** poor design but it is what it is, no wonder the auto hubs are so problematic.
 
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Old Feb 5, 2008 | 09:08 PM
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look at this... http://www.angelfire.com/fang/mercury/ball.pdf

you will see the seal when i pull the axle shaft out... I put that seal on there with 3 C clamps.

The seal DOES make an air tight seal even though it spins cause the inside spins and the outside does not.

I got rid of my auto hubs cause they were junk. But the seal on the back side also protects against mud and junk so if yours is bad i say replace it

ask me any questions i had the front of my truck apart quite a bit

kenny
 
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Old Feb 5, 2008 | 09:10 PM
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Alright, thanks rich250! That's what I needed to know.
 
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