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The way I've always looked at it: a tax, is a tax, is a tax. It HAS to come from somewhere. We may not agree with it's spending 100%, but all gov'ts have to aquire money for public services from someplace. At least with the fuel tax, we are being taxed for what we use and the money, generally, is getting put back into roads and such. Out of all the taxes out there, it's one of the fairer ones and doesn't have the loopholes for the filthy rich to hide their $$$'s in.
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Remind me to never start another subject that can be twisted in a political discussion! 
But the point is, while Americans are suffering with these $3.00+ a gallon prices, the oil companies are posting record profits year after year. And yes, I guess this makes me mad because of the mileage my Excursion gets. Just like with the housing market being so bad now, my real estate property asessment went up another record 19% this year. While everybody wittles away at my wallet, I am going from middle class America right into perhaps qualifying for food stamps soon.
But the point is, while Americans are suffering with these $3.00+ a gallon prices, the oil companies are posting record profits year after year. And yes, I guess this makes me mad because of the mileage my Excursion gets. Just like with the housing market being so bad now, my real estate property asessment went up another record 19% this year. While everybody wittles away at my wallet, I am going from middle class America right into perhaps qualifying for food stamps soon.
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I do apologize for getting off onto the political track. Seems easy to get 'riled up' these days.
Interesting you mention the housing thing; our taxes went up 4% this last year, however, my real estate agent said that property values for the whole county dropped 1% in the last year???????? Go figure.
Interesting you mention the housing thing; our taxes went up 4% this last year, however, my real estate agent said that property values for the whole county dropped 1% in the last year???????? Go figure.
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We should have a FLAT TAX! Everyone would pay their fair shair. If I want to buy a expensive car I pay the same percentage of the sale as if you would buy a cheap car. Seems easy to me. I know therir would be some problems but why tax the tar out of me, a hard working guy, when their are some of us that sit on their lazy .... and collect checks. Whose the dumb one?? We need some real TAX REFORM! Sorry for rant. Later
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Originally Posted by Aaron Steinblock
No matter what the case is, I still feel that these obnoxious salaries that CEO's make is crazy. The CEO of a major company is not being paid for his ability to run a company (they really do little no oversight of the actual company), but more simply for their ability to hire top level executives. These in turn hire lower level, these hire lower level, ect. ect., and then THESE finally oversee direct operations. And I'm sorry, but 20, 30, 50million is WAaaay too much money for an 'idea man' (what CEO usually means).
OTOH, what would you say if someone told you that YOU made too much money for what you did since you didn't do this, that or the other? IF the market is able to support me being a CEO for $20K a year, so be it.
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Originally Posted by sarge rmb
We should have a FLAT TAX! Everyone would pay their fair shair. If I want to buy a expensive car I pay the same percentage of the sale as if you would buy a cheap car. Seems easy to me. I know therir would be some problems but why tax the tar out of me, a hard working guy, when their are some of us that sit on their lazy .... and collect checks. Whose the dumb one?? We need some real TAX REFORM! Sorry for rant. Later
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Originally Posted by Aaron Steinblock
The way I've always looked at it: a tax, is a tax, is a tax. It HAS to come from somewhere. We may not agree with it's spending 100%, but all gov'ts have to aquire money for public services from someplace. At least with the fuel tax, we are being taxed for what we use and the money, generally, is getting put back into roads and such. Out of all the taxes out there, it's one of the fairer ones and doesn't have the loopholes for the filthy rich to hide their $$$'s in.
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I have no problem having someone critique how much money I make as a CEO. I am our companies 'idea man' as well as the one who risked every penny I had to start the company. And again, I have no issue in paying someone lucratively for leading a company. However, the business world in general has critisized large corporations that lavish their executives with HUGE HUGE salaries/bonuses/perks. At this point, how can you justify paying any person 30 million dollars a year, plus bonuses and perks? This isn't from my own mouth, its' from the wall street journal, business weekly, Inc., ect ect ect.
I'm not saying that these people should fork over that money to us as the consumer. I would rather see them give $1K a year more in pay or beni's to their staff that get penny pinched.
I read that too about Doyle. That one ticked me off!
Ever notice how it seems elections are not so much about the issues now as it is about who can raise (or swipe) the most $$$???????? Lets give every candidate a small budget and when that's up, your done campaigning.
I'm not saying that these people should fork over that money to us as the consumer. I would rather see them give $1K a year more in pay or beni's to their staff that get penny pinched.
I read that too about Doyle. That one ticked me off!
Ever notice how it seems elections are not so much about the issues now as it is about who can raise (or swipe) the most $$$???????? Lets give every candidate a small budget and when that's up, your done campaigning.
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From: Hartford, WI
Originally Posted by VaSheriff
But the point is, while Americans are suffering with these $3.00+ a gallon prices, the oil companies are posting record profits year after year.
And yes, I guess this makes me mad because of the mileage my Excursion gets.
Just like with the housing market being so bad now, my real estate property asessment went up another record 19% this year. While everybody wittles away at my wallet, I am going from middle class America right into perhaps qualifying for food stamps soon.
And yes, I guess this makes me mad because of the mileage my Excursion gets.
Just like with the housing market being so bad now, my real estate property asessment went up another record 19% this year. While everybody wittles away at my wallet, I am going from middle class America right into perhaps qualifying for food stamps soon.
So sell your Excursion and buy a TDI Jetta that gets 50+ mpg.
Will you vote for your state level representatives if they told you that because of the bad housing market they don't collect enough taxes and so we have to close down some schools and consolidate others and cut other services? Probably not. Americans want to hear how they will get something while not wanting to hear about the price. Ever heard how people talk about pedestrian rights, this rights, that rights? Sure you have. Ever heard these same people talk about their duties? Probably not.
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Originally Posted by Aaron Steinblock
I have no problem having someone critique how much money I make as a CEO. I am our companies 'idea man' as well as the one who risked every penny I had to start the company. And again, I have no issue in paying someone lucratively for leading a company. However, the business world in general has critisized large corporations that lavish their executives with HUGE HUGE salaries/bonuses/perks. At this point, how can you justify paying any person 30 million dollars a year, plus bonuses and perks? This isn't from my own mouth, its' from the wall street journal, business weekly, Inc., ect ect ect.
Ever notice how it seems elections are not so much about the issues now as it is about who can raise (or swipe) the most $$$???????? Lets give every candidate a small budget and when that's up, your done campaigning.
Ever notice how it seems elections are not so much about the issues now as it is about who can raise (or swipe) the most $$$???????? Lets give every candidate a small budget and when that's up, your done campaigning.
I don't care about their campaigning. I'm more worried about what they do AFTER it is done and they are in office. Then they start playing games with money, our money. Remember, those elected are playing around with real money and more to the point, OUR money. As I said before, they are using OUR money to buy themselves into office by doing this, that or the other with OUR money to pander to you so you will vote for them. Call it a tax rebate, tax refund, service that benefits only a minority of people, etc,etc.
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Originally Posted by PatsPOS
I've thought it over, and I've decided to begrudge Mr. Tillerson in Mr. Sweet's place. I'm not sure I could spend $20 million in a lifetime.
Pat
Pat
20 Million won't even be enough for ONE of my big items
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gas price
Hey the point is about 15 to 20 years ago gas was around a dollar a gallon now its 3 in 20 years! Wow I wish cars, homes, pools, clothing, and the rest of the stuff we buy would only increase that much. Gas companies make more money buy getting us the lowest price possible. Do you think Maceys has a sale to lose money? I think 3 bucks isnt that bad, if you cant afford it walk or go green.