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Old Jan 28, 2008 | 07:56 PM
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Unhappy Driveline Harmonic

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I own a 1996 F250 with a 7.3 PSD. I've noticed a humming sound coming through the floor when the trucks at about 1500-2000 RPM. The trucks actual speed and whether it's in 4WD or not makes no difference. After checking the TSB's on this site I discovered one that describes the problem exactly. The reccomended fix is to replace the motor mounts, transmission mounts and the front catalytic converter mount. That all sounds like it's going to be really expensive. Has anyone dealt with this issue before? How did they get it resolved?
 
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Old Jan 28, 2008 | 07:59 PM
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can you give the TSB link or number. Never heard of the TSB or the problem. Do you have any aftermarket products on the truck.
 
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Old Jan 28, 2008 | 08:04 PM
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Just a WAG here but, it sounds like "down pipe hitting firewall syndrome" or something close. Ford loves to throw parts at problems. I find it hard to believe that the motor mounts, transmission mounts and the front catalytic converter mount would all go bad at once. There are alot of trucks out there still running all of the stock mounts with no problems. I would look into this further before throwing parts at an unknown problem and hoping that it helps. Just my .02.
 
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Old Jan 28, 2008 | 08:11 PM
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The TSB # is 032118. The truck is completely stock. I'm also not sure if it happened all agt once or not because I just bought the damn thing.
 
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Old Jan 29, 2008 | 12:12 AM
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I recall many years ago (50's) of a "Harmonic Roll" and that had to do with drive line alignment/balance.

Rog
 
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Old Jan 30, 2008 | 10:28 PM
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co131 welcome to the FTE I agree with PLOWHAND check your exhaust even if the mounts were gone they would make noise all the time. try rotates your tires and give it a whirl Mine gets this humming noise too and if I rotate the tires every 5 months I don ' t get any noise. Its weird but try it!
 
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Old Jan 31, 2008 | 11:05 AM
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Thanks guys. I'll take a look when it woarms up a bit. We were at -46 yesterday morning.
 
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Old Jan 31, 2008 | 11:32 AM
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Thanks guys. I'll take a look when it woarms up a bit. We were at -46 yesterday morning.
woah -46 where do you live?
 
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Old Jan 31, 2008 | 11:34 AM
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you stated an rpm range. does this happen when the truck is not rolling. if it does, then we know that it's in the engine. the reason i ask is because you said that different speeds dont make a change.

if the engine's ruled out...

i agree with the tire rotation. tire balance too.

check the carrier bearing

get the wheels off the ground and spin all of them and see what you find ie wheel bearings, diff gears, etc.
 
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Old Jan 31, 2008 | 12:38 PM
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I live in Central Alberta right in th mountains.

I've already addressed the tire issue by putting 4 new ones one.

The noise doesn't happen when the truck is stopped - only when moving.

What is a carrier bearing and how do I check it?
 
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Old Jan 31, 2008 | 12:53 PM
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The "Carrier Bearing" is the driveline support bearing, half way from the tranny to the diff. on the drive shaft.
 
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Old Jan 31, 2008 | 01:02 PM
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What's the best was to check it. What should I look for.
 
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Old Jan 31, 2008 | 02:01 PM
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don't ask for spec/numbers. if it's real bad a visual inspection will show. grab the prop shaft near the carrier and push/pull up/down. some play is ok, but if it flops around in there like a straw in a glass then it needs to be replaced. i hope someone else can give some more detail.

did this by chance start when you put the new tires on?
 
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Old Jan 31, 2008 | 02:46 PM
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Appreciate the advice everyone. I'll let you know how everything works out.
 
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Old Feb 10, 2008 | 02:47 PM
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I check the driveline bearing and it seems fine. I checked the exhaust coming from the manifold and It looks like there's no contact with the firewall. It's really close though. I heard a rumor that the engine may twist slightly (torque related) when it's under lad and this may put the down pipe and firewall in contact. Does this make any sense? What's the next thing I should be doing?
 
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