reversing rims
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reversing rims
Do they still revers rims like the old day's rat rod...i.e. cut out the center reverse and weld back in? what type of shop would consider doing this...I live in Central Oregon, have some steelies that I'd like reversed...any ideas/thoughts?
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i found a guy thanx to stu here in ill , that works at a trailer manufacturer that does it , otherwise try one of the wheel makers and i dont remember if it was bobj , bobby tnm or who but they posted a link in a thread where i asked the same thing , on how to do it yourself . 
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I was considering doing it myself, but tbeing rims I've got second thoughts. I'd pay to have them done right/safely...I'll call the local trailer company...see what they would do...thks
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See March '08 Hot Rod, page 22.
Wheel Smith, Santa Ana, Ca.
http://www.thewheelsmith.net/ford_wheels.html
Probably not cheap, but then it looks like they won't wobble or fall apart.
As for reverse rims, they fell out of favor because:
--hard on bearings. Look at the wimpy outer front wheel bearing on most vehicles, and imagine it taking most of the load due to the wheel being "reversed".
--reversed wheels give you a built-in instability and difficulty to control issue.
Look at Front wheel drive wheels. You want the geometry of the steering axis to be outside the centerline of the wheel. Look at the first Olds Toronado. Very exaggerated wheel, and they suffered very little from torque steer.
Anyway, you can probably get a fine set from the guys above and they will probably work just fine for you.
Wheel Smith, Santa Ana, Ca.
http://www.thewheelsmith.net/ford_wheels.html
Probably not cheap, but then it looks like they won't wobble or fall apart.
As for reverse rims, they fell out of favor because:
--hard on bearings. Look at the wimpy outer front wheel bearing on most vehicles, and imagine it taking most of the load due to the wheel being "reversed".
--reversed wheels give you a built-in instability and difficulty to control issue.
Look at Front wheel drive wheels. You want the geometry of the steering axis to be outside the centerline of the wheel. Look at the first Olds Toronado. Very exaggerated wheel, and they suffered very little from torque steer.
Anyway, you can probably get a fine set from the guys above and they will probably work just fine for you.
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From: springfield il
i dont know about low , but i only want 'em on the rear where i dont think you're gonna run into too many issues as you mentioned with the front end . plus if and when i get to the point where i can i really want 'em more or less centered in the rear so they are a lil' deeper but not hanging out to much one way or the other .
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Here's the link for making your own custom wheels:
http://www.fordmuscle.com/archives/2...lies/index.php
http://www.fordmuscle.com/archives/2...lies/index.php
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Originally Posted by 85e150six4mtod
As for reverse rims, they fell out of favor because:
--hard on bearings. Look at the wimpy outer front wheel bearing on most vehicles, and imagine it taking most of the load due to the wheel being "reversed".
--reversed wheels give you a built-in instability and difficulty to control issue.
--hard on bearings. Look at the wimpy outer front wheel bearing on most vehicles, and imagine it taking most of the load due to the wheel being "reversed".
--reversed wheels give you a built-in instability and difficulty to control issue.
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Originally Posted by ALBUQ F-1
So what do you think about the lowriders running 13" Daytons on big Caddies or Buicks that have zero back-spacing?! I hate driving near them...
I've seen 'em on front wheel drive cars like that, darting around in the lane as the steering geometry is totally fubar.
That link I posted will make 'em the way you want 'em, btw....
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Hey Kevin - You may have already posted this and I missed it but, if not, please describe your experience with Trotters. Sounds like you're happy with their work which suggests they're doing it in a professional way? Do they use a jig and a high tech type welder or is it done manually? How do they ensure the alignment and balance of the wheels? What kind of guarantee did they give you? Did you hear if they have any limitation on wheel type/size? What did they charge?
Sorry if I'm hijacking this thread, but this comes up so often it'd be good to know a source that could be trusted to do it right. Stu
Sorry if I'm hijacking this thread, but this comes up so often it'd be good to know a source that could be trusted to do it right. Stu
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naw called over and he seemed agreeable with it , but like i told him wasn't quite ready yet .still playing a little catch up from last year , it was one of those where did that bill come from types .i'll hopefully be going over here in person with rims in hand next month and i'll let ya know stu . 
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i just called him back as all this has jogged my memory and now we have a different tune . says he can only do 'em for implements , not anything for high speed . dagnabbit . i think im gonna talk to one of the welding shops here in town stu , and see what they say . if not i may just try it myself . kinda of a kicker as he was semmingly so willing to before .
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That sounds more like I would have expected. Companies like Stockton Wheel have made a huge investment in technology to help them ensure a safe product, and to help them stay in business in an environment of high insurance rates and lawyers waiting to take a bite out of them. Small companies can't handle the risk. Thanks for finding out "the rest of the story". Stu
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Originally Posted by 55 f350
i found a guy thanx to stu here in ill , that works at a trailer manufacturer that does it , otherwise try one of the wheel makers and i dont remember if it was bobj , bobby tnm or who but they posted a link in a thread where i asked the same thing , on how to do it yourself .
http://www.fordmuscle.com/archives/2...lies/index.php
Bobby