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Old Jan 27, 2008 | 03:32 PM
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Just thought I'd pass it along...I think they'll train too.

http://biz.yahoo.com/ap/080127/shipb..._shortage.html
 
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Old Jan 27, 2008 | 10:34 PM
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thank you for the link and the look out for everyone here.

separate thought now....$18.50 an hour for an experienced welder? topping out? i am not a welder but i beleive that is kind of low ball for an experienced welder, especially if $18.50 is as they described, top pay. even the welders where i work get more than that, heck, a welder/mechanic will start at $16 an hour where i work and we are just some little plastic company. but that pay does good for getting visas approved.
 
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Old Jan 28, 2008 | 01:50 AM
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That was just about an hour's worth of great reading. Since my body is so messed up, I'm looking at any and all options... especially if they are willing to hire physically handicapped and train them.

As for moving back east, I think I'll hang tough for a little while and see if there's any way possible to get my legs under me full time again.

Wonder if they hire folks who live on pain medication just to be able to get through a day?
 
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Old Jan 28, 2008 | 12:44 PM
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My uncle work at the Florida shipyard for years. Rough dirty work and very underpaid. After years on the job, he retired and is constantly fighting skin cancer lesions.
I believe the private sector offers more in pay and benefits. My girlfriends husband works an 8 a day job for over $30 an hour in MA.
 
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Old Jan 28, 2008 | 03:13 PM
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I have said that there are manufactoring and industrial jobs out there to be had and most Americans don't want them. Mostly for reasons already mentioned like rough, dirty work with low pay.

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Old Jan 28, 2008 | 04:17 PM
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thank you for the link and the look out for everyone here.

separate thought now....$18.50 an hour for an experienced welder? topping out? i am not a welder but i beleive that is kind of low ball for an experienced welder, especially if $18.50 is as they described, top pay. even the welders where i work get more than that, heck, a welder/mechanic will start at $16 an hour where i work and we are just some little plastic company. but that pay does good for getting visas approved.
Well, hell's-bells, man!.....Aren't YOU getting high-falutin'!!!.....Not too long ago you were bichin' about only making about $6 during the entire year of 2007!!!.....
 

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Old Jan 28, 2008 | 04:20 PM
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I guess working as a shipfitter or shipbuilder is different from working as crane operators, etc. at ports?......I know that THEY are highly-paid as hell, heavily unionized, and you 'win' jobs through lottery type bids.......(I've heard tell of some crane operators making over $100,000......and not necessarily through overtime either......).

Maybe if the 'shortage' gets bad enough, they'll raise the pay. Who knows.
 
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Old Jan 28, 2008 | 04:36 PM
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I understand not wanting to kill yourself for "low" pay, but it wasn't long ago that $18.50/hr was considered pretty good. Not anymore where I live here in CA, but elsewhere it'll still do you ok. I wonder what the living wages are where these jobs are.

Considering that this package likely includes benefits (note: I did click all the way through past the article), and you're learning a trade that you can take with you, do work on the side, start your own business, it sure beats flipping burgers or working at Jiffy Lube.

Anyway, if I were untrained/needing a trade and flexible to move, I'd consider this.
 
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Old Jan 28, 2008 | 06:29 PM
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Post #8.....Yup.....Agreed.....
 
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Old Jan 28, 2008 | 08:39 PM
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Well, hell's-bells, man!.....Aren't YOU getting high-falutin'!!!.....Not too long ago you were bichin' about only making about $6 during the entire year of 2007!!!.....
actually, i said i paid $6 in federal taxes.

plus, iwas just pointing out stuff, no different than is i pointed out if a place is looking for cops to hire for $14k a year. whether i have the skills, nedds, or wants has no effect. isn't that some kind of fallancy?

but, if i was an experienced welder, i still think it is low pay, of course i don't know the specifics but i been around ship yards a lot and i know those Navy types get paid some bucks for ship welding work. sure the job said they would train, but they also listed they wanted experienced welders and they said the pay would top out at $18.50 an hour. i bet someone with ship welding skills can make a whole lot more than that.

but that low balling is one way of getting cheap labor through the visa programs, knowing that no one with that kind of experience here in the US would ever accept that job.

and yes, some crane operators get paid mega bucks. some, like the ones who load the nuke missiles into the subs, make easy into the 6 figure range.

but i am not complaining about the job offer, i think tis great and glad it was posted, i was just throwing out some thoughts out there on it because as i said, the little plastic company i work at here in low cost of living tennessee pays along those lines.
 
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Old Jan 28, 2008 | 11:38 PM
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VanEnkevort hmmmm a good name in the marine business and its a foot in the door to places like Bay shipbuilding or Manitowoc shipyard or Fraser yard. from what i heard he takes care of his people. im a sailor on the lakes and every thing i have heard from his crews are nothing but good things. he runs a tug/barge combo on the lakes. the Joyce VanEnkevort(tug) and the great lakes trader(barge).
The funny thing about great lakes shipping is people forget about us. the fact is were doing a lot of work here that we(ford drivers) should be interested in. the ship i was on this summer brought iron ore from Marquette MI to The ford plant in River Rouge, that iron ore is used to make the f-150.

also the last Major ship construction on the lakes was nearly 30 years ago!!!! these ships are getting old and tired so getting a job here wouldn't be bad when the old boats start breaking. hell the boat i was on this summer was a converted oiler that was built in 1942 it was in Toyko harbor when japan surrendered ending WW2. (5 pts to the guy who names the boat i was on) if i wasn't sailing these boats id be back in the ship yard building them or repairing them. He's got orders up the wazoo and your gonna have a job for a long time, yea the pay's not the greatest but its all new construction. your not going to be messing with old stuff.

well thats just my $0.02 worth.
 
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Old Jan 28, 2008 | 11:53 PM
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USS Chiwawa (AO-68)????
 
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Old Jan 29, 2008 | 07:35 AM
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I'm guessing Neshanic (AO-71)......Now the American Victory.
 
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Old Jan 29, 2008 | 03:04 PM
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I agree that an experienced welder should be able to make more than $18.50. But this sounds like it might be a good opportunity to get paid to learn to weld, and get experience. Then if you can get a higher paying job somewhere else, go for it...
 
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Old Jan 29, 2008 | 03:09 PM
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OK...Bf250.....ONE of us is correct in guessing the fleet oiler...where is rangersvt04?.....Sleeping?.....
 
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