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Old Jan 24, 2008 | 10:27 AM
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sqeual from drive shaft

anyone had any issues with your drive shaft squealing at low speeds? ive looked for "zerk" fittings to lube it but i didnt see any. sprayed some wd-40 on it, quit for a while but came back. i inspected the joints and i can see some bright metal spots where they mate up indicating some rubbing. is there anything i can do to fix this? or do i need to get new joints and rebuild the shaft? to clarify the bright spots are on the ball joints.
 
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Old Jan 24, 2008 | 11:22 AM
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Squealing often indicates a U-joint is on its way out. Good insurance to replace now before it fails.
 
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Old Jan 24, 2008 | 11:48 AM
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pull the driveshaft and replace (R&R ) u-joint, inspect other u-joints on driveshaft, most likely worn too.
 
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Old Jan 24, 2008 | 12:27 PM
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just ordered the u-joints hope they arent to hard to put in. anything else i should do while i have the shaft out?
 
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Old Jan 24, 2008 | 01:26 PM
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inspect the slip yoke on drive shaft. if the slip yoke doesn't look worn, then grease the slip yoke when the drive shaft is back on truck.

Check the pinon seal on rear pinon yoke (axle) and check the rear out put seal on transmission /or transfercase. If leaking, this would be the time to replace seal.

Let us know if you plan on replacing any of these seals or if the slip yoke is wobble and worn.
 
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Old Jan 24, 2008 | 02:54 PM
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i think it might be time to replace the pinion seal, looks like there has been leakage over time. that would call for new differential fluid and all that. should i get some kind of flush for it also?
 
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Old Jan 24, 2008 | 03:28 PM
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What is the year make and model of truck?
 
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Old Jan 24, 2008 | 06:12 PM
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Will need to remove the third member to change fluid.
Or change out with a hand siphon pump.

If the yoke on third member is groove. use some fine grit sand paper and smooth out the grooves in the rotation of the drive shaft spin.

Before removing nut on yoke on third member.
Mark with a chisel or punch the top of pinon shaft and the big nut clearly. You don't want to mess with the bearing preload of the pinon shaft. This way when you reinstall the yoke, washer, and big nut, you tighten to the pre stamped marks.
 
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Old Jan 24, 2008 | 06:27 PM
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Will need to remove the third member to change fluid.
Or change out with a hand siphon pump.

If the yoke on third member is groove. use some fine grit sand paper and smooth out the grooves in the rotation of the drive shaft spin.

Before removing nut on yoke on third member.
Mark with a chisel or punch the top of pinon shaft and the big nut clearly. You don't want to mess with the bearing preload of the pinon shaft. This way when you reinstall the yoke, washer, and big nut, you tighten to the pre stamped marks.
Is this in regard's to replacing seal's?
 
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Old Jan 24, 2008 | 06:43 PM
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This might work, and yes it is in regards to the pinion seal. Mark the nut and shaft. Break the nut free and COUNT the total number of threads as you remove it. When you replace the seal, tighten the exact same number of threads, and line up the marks.

Reason for being careful? There is a "Crush Sleeve" that you do not want to damage, and this does involve bearing preload and such. PoopBoys did the same type job on an older astro I used to drive for work---but they hand-fisted it using an air impact gun to remove and install. HUGE MISTAKE!!! Within 100 miles the rear bearing set was totally destroyed! ($650.00 repair bill) If they had been more careful, and use common sense? Should have been a very easy job.

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Old Jan 27, 2008 | 03:16 PM
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in the middle of replacing the ujoints and good call on them too, the rear ones fell apart as soon as i took the clamps off.

anyway, cant seem to get them compressed enough to get the ring clips in all the way. got one side in but the other needs to go in about what looks to be 1/64th of an inch or less. any ideas?
 
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Old Jan 27, 2008 | 03:23 PM
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If they are really difficult to get in,you could take 'em down to your local machine shop.They have them big presses,no problem.
 
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Old Jan 27, 2008 | 03:23 PM
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The method I used to use back in my mechanics days (gosh...I'm old to remember all this stuff now) I used to use a full sized bench vice and a socket smaller then the yoke opening. Get both caps pressed in SLOWLY using the bench vice (soft jaws recommended) until flush. Then I just used the socket and pressed in both cups until I could get the retaining ring installed. Grease it up before installing it on the truck.

Remember you should never have to force fit it. If it seems like it won't go? It might be the wrong one. Compressing it using excessive force will bury the cups into the joint and it will tear itself apart.

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Old Jan 27, 2008 | 03:37 PM
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well i got them in, and i dont have a bench vice handy so ive been using a c-clamp, probably not the best method, but its worked so far. i was a little concerned about them being the wrong ones, but it went in pretty easy except for that last little bit. not im just waiting for my penatrating oil to soak in so i can get the middle one out. this really is a big pain, but its worth not dieing
 
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Old Jan 27, 2008 | 03:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Tedybear
The method I used to use back in my mechanics days (gosh...I'm old to remember all this stuff now) I used to use a full sized bench vice and a socket smaller then the yoke opening. Get both caps pressed in SLOWLY using the bench vice (soft jaws recommended) until flush. Then I just used the socket and pressed in both cups until I could get the retaining ring installed. Grease it up before installing it on the truck.

Remember you should never have to force fit it. If it seems like it won't go? It might be the wrong one. Compressing it using excessive force will bury the cups into the joint and it will tear itself apart.

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That's the same way I do mine.If you are having problem's getting the old ones out,basically do the same thing Tedybear suggested above for installing.I had a couple that were pretty seized up,I placed everything on the floor in front of me,used a piece of pipe that the cap's would fit in,and an old socket wit a BFH,and punched them out.
 
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