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Old Jan 21, 2008 | 03:46 PM
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Troubleshooting: Hard time turning over.

I have an 1989 inline 6. It was turning over fine. Well one day it flooded, and it wound the battery down and down. Eventually it just bleh stopped turning over.

I tried to turn it over by rolling it down a hill and that didnt seem to work too well either. So we got a chain pulled it up the hill. parked it. Well then I jumped it off and the it sounded like the starter was a dying horse. Even with the jumper cables on there........

Every turn would take 3 seconds. Well after burning the starter up I got a new one. put it on there. It's doing the same exact thing. The starter is good but the engine is not. I have no idea how to get it to turn over. The cables in up getting really hot from the starter pulling so much juice so I can barely try to turn it over.

Is it seized, will turning it over with the spark plugs out help?
 
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Old Jan 22, 2008 | 02:23 AM
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Swap out the battery and see what happens.

Jumpers just arent enough sometimes.
 
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Old Jan 22, 2008 | 08:35 AM
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Also it might be a bad ground thats causing it to drag over when you go to start it. It might even be your main starter cable from the solenoid to the starter itself.

Either way, hope ya get it fixed.
 
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Old Jan 22, 2008 | 08:46 AM
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nicholas, hi paul k here, this hard to believe sometimes, but i swear it is possible. when an engine seriously floods it can fill the cyclinders to the point where she will lock . hydrostatic lock. PULL all your plugs and see if she does not spin over. i bet she will. if it does if i were you i would CHANGE your OIL & filter also. your crankcase oil is thinned out beyond proper lube values period. good luck. i hope i am right. not to brag, more to help you if possible. later me.pk
 
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Old Jan 22, 2008 | 11:24 AM
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To eliminate a wiring problem measure the voltage at the battery posts and compare to the voltage at the starter when cranking. The voltage diffence should be less than 0.5 volts and the battery should not drop below 12 volts.

I would also pull the plugs as mentioned and see if that helps.

If the voltage is good at the starter and it turns hard with the plugs out you might have a deeper problem.

Is it auto or manual tranny?

Any belts pulling hard, alternator, A/C compressor, etc.?
 
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Old Jan 22, 2008 | 06:51 PM
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I found out what it was. The first starter had melted the contacts on the inside and cause alot of juice to be pulled through the battery wire. When I tried turning it over alot with the first starter, the battery wire melted the ground causing a huge short, "Battery almost exploded in my face by the way".
I stuck another starter on there and it was doing the same thing. Thats when the battery almost exploded.

Turns out the first starter melted the battery wire to the ground at the half way mark. I was able to go underneath the truck and pull them apart luckily. My dad was helping me out and when I pulled them apart he touched the battery to the starter. Well I almost lost a pair of pants when he did that.



So when the starter was going really slow the battery was fine, it turned out to be the battery wire. "Short".

I did take off the belt and stuff and wow was it a pain putting it back on. Remind me to do that last next time this happens.

Now it turns over like a champ. 375.000 miles and still runs like a beast!

Roaarrr!!!



Thanks for all of your help guys. I did'nt know this forum was so full!


-nick-
 
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Old Jan 24, 2008 | 10:37 AM
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hi nick paul k, for what it is worth my sons name is nicholas aka nick. i see i was wrong but its OKAY, your motor up and running is always what matters to US always. glad to hear you and the other guys CALLED it. hey say hi to dad for US. i used to love workin with my dad. with age comes wisdom. later paul&nick k md.
 
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