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Old Jan 20, 2008 | 03:56 PM
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Starter fit question

The starter on my 77 went bad today it has a 400 motor and I dont have enough cash to get a new one. But I do have a good one from a 302.
Will it work?

Its really cold out so I thought I would ask hear befor I go swap it out in 0 degree weather.
 
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Old Jan 20, 2008 | 04:19 PM
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Hey,
I hope it helps, but I spent a couple of minutes on AutoZone's website and looked up the part numbers for a 302 and a 400 starter. They are different numbers. Sounds as though they won't fit.

#DL3154 5.0 L (302 cid)
#DL3152 6.6 L (400 cid)
 
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Old Jan 20, 2008 | 04:35 PM
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240/300 I-6 / 302 / 351W starters are the same...BUT...there are two different starters..one for a manual trans, one for an automatic.

351C (cars only) 351M/400 starters are not the same as 240/300/302/351W's.

Junkyard info: The cars used 351C's = 1970/74 / 351M's 1975/79 / 400's 1971/79. 8 valve cover bolts per valve cover. (the 302 and 351W's have 6 bolts per cover)

Trucks used 351M/400's 1977/82.

The 351C/351M/400 starter is the same for manual or auto trans.
 
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Old Jan 20, 2008 | 04:49 PM
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Also, the 460 starter is the same as the 351C/351M/400 starter. The 460 starter in the 80s has a lot more torque than the 400 starter and is good if you are building a high compression C or M block motor.
 
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Old Jan 23, 2008 | 03:38 PM
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Mine went awhile ago too. I took it apart, emery clothed all the contact surfaces and re-assembled it....works as good as new. This might be a cheaper option for you.
 
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Old Jan 23, 2008 | 03:44 PM
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Originally Posted by VMK270
Mine went awhile ago too. I took it apart, emery clothed all the contact surfaces and re-assembled it....works as good as new. This might be a cheaper option for you.
I seen blue smoke come out of it, I think its toast
 
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Old Jan 23, 2008 | 03:52 PM
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Originally Posted by scrapyardking
I seen blue smoke come out of it, I think its toast
The armature is fried...just replace that, the brushes and the two bushings = good as new.
Or, buy a rebuilt starter from an autoparts store.

Same exact starter on the cars: 1970/79 as the 1977/82 351M/400 trucks used.
 
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Old Jan 23, 2008 | 09:28 PM
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The rebuilt starter is about $39-$45, a rebuild kit is around $20. They aren't difficult to rebuild, but they aren't fun at all.
 
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A rebuilt starter is 39.00 and the rebuild kit is 13.00.
 
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Old Jan 24, 2008 | 07:18 AM
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Just bought the rebuilt starter it was $29.00
 
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Old Mar 8, 2008 | 02:02 PM
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Im not tryin to jack this thread, but i need to get my 86, wich has a 300 I-6 carb manual. would i be able to use my 460's starter (460 is a 1979)? i did some compairing the cone on the end seems a little longer. but i went under and it could seem to fit. just thought id ask before i would mess around with it. thanks! (they want $40 at the junk yard for a starter.... and a new one costs 50 at the local store.)
 
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Old Mar 8, 2008 | 03:38 PM
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I highly doubt it will fit Cletus. If junkyard wants $40..better off just getting one at store.
 
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Old Mar 8, 2008 | 03:57 PM
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the nose piece is the only difference in 302 and 400 starter
by changing the bolts the 302 starter will start the 400 just fine,only thing I noticed with auto I got a real light chirp in reverse under hard pull
 
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Old Mar 9, 2008 | 12:07 AM
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the only thing i want to do is move my truck, because its a long push from my shed to the garage.
 
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