HEET in fuel?
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I use Penray Nox Ice in my truck from time to time especially in the winter. HEET is basically the same as Nox Ice.(Isopropyl Alcohol) All the ethanol in gas now tends to attract moisture, its wise to run a water remover from time to time.
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Remember, Wind Chill Temp is only a feels like temp to the human body. It does not affect the point of freezing of liquids.
As for the use of it in your truck, it should be no problem, if used as directed.
Matter of fact if you forsee using it in the future, maybe you should stock up on it. May be only a matter of time before the goverment begins requiring it to conform to a Isopropyl Alcohol/10% ethanol mix. LOL!!
As for the use of it in your truck, it should be no problem, if used as directed.
Matter of fact if you forsee using it in the future, maybe you should stock up on it. May be only a matter of time before the goverment begins requiring it to conform to a Isopropyl Alcohol/10% ethanol mix. LOL!!
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Jonrjen is right about the wind chill. It can make an inanimate object cool down faster but never below the actual air temp.
Just FYI.
Just FYI.
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[QUOTE=jonrjen]Remember, Wind Chill Temp is only a feels like temp to the human body. It does not affect the point of freezing of liquids.
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I was out ice fishing 3 weeks ago and it was around 34deg with the sun out. There was a sustainable wind of around 20mph. If wind does not affect liquid freezing why was the wind chill causing my ice holes to freeze over? Earlier in the morning when the wind was calm my holes wern't freezing over, only when the wind started.
Water is a surface just like your skin and can be affected by the wind chill. Of course fuel inside a tank isn't as effected.
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I was out ice fishing 3 weeks ago and it was around 34deg with the sun out. There was a sustainable wind of around 20mph. If wind does not affect liquid freezing why was the wind chill causing my ice holes to freeze over? Earlier in the morning when the wind was calm my holes wern't freezing over, only when the wind started.
Water is a surface just like your skin and can be affected by the wind chill. Of course fuel inside a tank isn't as effected.
Last edited by dkf; Jan 19, 2008 at 04:40 PM.
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When you say "around" 34 degrees; that is right on the verge of freezing. Did you check the temp where you were fishing or just go by a thermometer on the way?? Temps can vary over short distances...just watch the temp guage when driving... Just a thought.
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Originally Posted by dkf
I was out ice fishing 3 weeks ago and it was around 34deg with the sun out. There was a sustainable wind of around 20mph. If wind does not affect liquid freezing why was the wind chill causing my ice holes to freeze over? Earlier in the morning when the wind was calm my holes wern't freezing over, only when the wind started.
For the same reason that water evaporates (some molecules are hotter than others, and speed off into the air), wind will cool off water because it will speed evaporation. The evaporation will cool the remaining water, causing it to freeze.
Otherwise, we wouldn't all have evaporators as part of our air conditioning systems
Wind-chill in human terms, again, the air moving over your skin speeds evaporation of water, causing your skin to drop in temperature. I think it's possible to get frostbite even when the air temp is 34 degrees, depending on the wind speed.
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Or, the wind sweeping over the frozen surface was cooled below freezing. The only way to know would be to take a temp reading just above the water level in the hole. With the super cooled air blowing the temp probably dropped below freezing.
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34 degrees calm is warmer than 34 degrees with wind, EVEN for water. The ice hole will freeze on windy 34 degree day. We always brought a couple 5 gal buckets with bottom cut out to keep some holes from freezing. Keeps the wind 18 inches from the hole. I was never much into ice fishing, I just rode the 4 wheeler, checked holes and drilled new ones with my G'pa back in the day.