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Old Jan 16, 2008 | 07:41 PM
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I am having a hard time downshifting into 2nd when the tranny is cold (40 degrees or below) Sometimes I have to come to a complete stop and start in granny gear to get going. Someone said I could run atf fluid instead of gear oil to remedy my problem. Will that work and would that damage my seals?
 
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Old Jan 16, 2008 | 07:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Mrcorey5
I am having a hard time downshifting into 2nd when the tranny is cold (40 degrees or below) Sometimes I have to come to a complete stop and start in granny gear to get going. Someone said I could run atf fluid instead of gear oil to remedy my problem. Will that work and would that damage my seals?
I wouldnt run atf in it, I would suggest using a thinner weight gear oil or maybe even a synthetic.
 
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Old Jan 16, 2008 | 07:57 PM
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Maybe Royal Purple?
 
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Old Jan 16, 2008 | 08:27 PM
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i read somewhere but cant remember where (maybe the owners manual), that in cold climates there was an alternative lubricant that was supposed to be used. it might of been 10w30 or something, i cant remember. but if you ever seen 90w gear oil at 40degrees, youll understand why it wont shift until the oil and gears are warm. usually a few miles of diving and the oil comes up to a high enough temp for it to shift regular. if you have a owners manual, im certain it adresses cold climate procedures
 

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Old Jan 17, 2008 | 08:29 AM
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Ford's original recommendation for the NP435 was 50W oil in the summer and 30 in the winter. 20W-50 motor oil is readily available and matches those viscosities pretty closely, that's what I use and my tranny shifts fine in the cold. 80-90 gear oil is just too heavy.
 
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Old Jan 18, 2008 | 03:58 AM
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if you use 50w it should make a difference.
 
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Old Jan 18, 2008 | 04:11 AM
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Ford said to use engine oil not gear oil when the NP435 came out. 50w for summer and 30w for winter. Instead I use royal purple syncromax fluid.
 
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Old Jan 18, 2008 | 07:44 AM
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I am running valvoline vr1 sae 50 in mine with now problems.
 
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Old Jan 18, 2008 | 11:11 AM
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I am running valvoline vr1 sae 50 in mine with now problems.
That is some expensive stuff, but it does have a high zinc content to protect against metal to metal wear.
 
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Old Jan 18, 2008 | 11:17 AM
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Originally Posted by teds74ford
I am running valvoline vr1 sae 50 in mine with now problems.
That is some expensive stuff, but it does have a high zinc content to protect against metal to metal wear.
 
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Old Jan 18, 2008 | 07:37 PM
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Talking Royal Purple

I did switch out my tranny and tranfer to 30w royal purple($45) It cured the problem instantly - plus going from 2wd to 4wd can be done with 1 finger! It took about 20 miles to feel the total change but now I don't have any worries about breaking the shifer linkage. It feels like shifting a new truck! Thanks a million for the tips and repies, you guys are great!
 
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Old Jan 18, 2008 | 07:38 PM
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Dare I ask how old, and how bad did the old fluid stink like rancid fish, and flow like cold molases as it drained?
 
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Old Jan 20, 2008 | 01:13 AM
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i changed the fluid in my np when i got the truck the beginning of the year. i did the stupid and put 80w90 in and it was hard to shift. the truck should be running tommorrow as i changed to correct 50w, replaced a the output seal, fixed the leaking pto, changed to a 4bbl, fixed engine oil leaks and put a dist pickup in.
 
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Old Jan 20, 2008 | 01:13 AM
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hope the 50w helps it shift easier.
 
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Old Jan 20, 2008 | 08:18 AM
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Originally Posted by masterbeavis
That is some expensive stuff, but it does have a high zinc content to protect against metal to metal wear.
When I was looking, that was the only sae 50 I could find around here. Normally, I am too cheap for stuff like that...
 
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