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Old Jul 24, 2002 | 10:22 AM
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We recently purchased an F350 dually that has the 460 industrial (grey) engine. I was curious if that engine is going to require a unique shop manual in order to have the correct specifications? We also noticed that the frame on this truck is slightly narrower than a standard F350. It makes me wonder how many other differences we are going to find. As the truck only has 11K miles on it we are hoping we will not be confronted with anything in the near future but we do want to have a shop manual on hand just in case.

Thanks for the help

PS another thing we noticed is the truck has anti-lock rear brakes and we thought this was not available until '89... perhaps we have a late model '88???
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Old Jul 24, 2002 | 10:57 AM
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How do you know it is an "industrial" 460? And if there is such a thing (I am kinda skeptical, but have been known to be wrong before!) what is so special about it?
 
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Old Jul 24, 2002 | 11:18 AM
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>How do you know it is an "industrial" 460? And if there is
>such a thing (I am kinda skeptical, but have been known to
>be wrong before!) what is so special about it?

I believe that Ford painted all their industrial strength 460's
grey instead of Ford blue. Also the frame width was smaller that a standard Ford frame leading me to think it was a special order. We know the truck only had one home here in Colorado before we purchased it and that it was ordered from the factory to accomodate a sander.
 
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Old Jul 24, 2002 | 11:40 AM
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My friends 88 has anti-lock brakes and is an early 88 yep, the last of the carb. 460's.

As for an industrial motor they do exsist in air compressors and other industrial applications that are more or less designed to be started and ran all day at the same rpm. I think that to have an F-350 with an industrial engine in it is highly unlikely.



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Old Jul 24, 2002 | 11:46 AM
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>My friends 88 has anti-lock brakes and is an early 88 yep,
>the last of the carb. 460's.
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>As for an industrial motor they do exsist in air compressors
>and other industrial applications that are more or less
>designed to be started and ran all day at the same rpm. I
>think that to have an F-350 with an industrial engine in it
>is highly unlikely.
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>Brian:-)

I thought the same but have never seen a grey Ford block except in industrial applivations.
Have you?
John

 
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Old Jul 24, 2002 | 01:37 PM
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For what it is worth, I have a 1985 F350 with the 460 and it is gray not blue.

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Old Jul 24, 2002 | 03:23 PM
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[updated:LAST EDITED ON 24-Jul-02 AT 04:23 PM (EST)]Starting in the '80s Ford started painting their engines in gray.Anti-lock rear brakes first became standard in 1987 for F-Series& Bronco.The last year for 460 wearing a carb was 1987-April of '87.Engines built after that had EFI.Ford did have an industrial 7.5L engine,I saw a webpage on their industrial offerings.I'll have to find it again,and post some "numbers".Your particular 460 is most likely a 230 horsepower/385 ft.-lbs. of torque "truck" version.
 
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Old Jul 24, 2002 | 03:34 PM
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The website to look at is www.powertechengines.com They give ratings for the "LSG875" industrial version of the 7.5L big-block.The industrial 460 operating on gasoline was rated at 173hp@2,800rpm.On LPG 161 hp, and 148 hp on natural gas.In early 2000,the LSG875 was replaced by an industrial version of the 6.8L V-10 called the "WSG1068"(that's original,huh.....).
 
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Old Jul 24, 2002 | 04:54 PM
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Sorry my friend's truck is an 87 not an 88 anti-lock came along with the bodystyle change correct?

I would be more willing to say that is a truck 460 that has be painted gray from the factory.

I don't think that an industrial 460 would behave properly in a truck you would have to run it at 4500rpm every where you go.


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Old Jul 24, 2002 | 09:30 PM
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my 1990 efi 460 came with a gray block and gray aluminum center bolt valve covers ford just made them that way no blue anywhere.

Now the 429 wagon I grew up with that one had blue steel valve covers with perimeter bolts
 
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Old Jul 24, 2002 | 09:44 PM
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Just found out Ford started painting engines grey sometime in the 80's. I wasn't sure because I only have a 91 and it a dsl and it comes gray from International
 
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Old Jul 25, 2002 | 10:44 AM
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You've all been really great and I appreciate all the good feedback.
John
 
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Old Jul 25, 2002 | 11:27 AM
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If you guys got paint on your 460s I'm jealous. My '97 only has paint on the oil pan and valve covers, but then when I ordered mine they didn't charge me the normal $385 to upgrade to the 460 over the 351. I guess the paint must be where they saved that $385.
 
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Old Jul 27, 2002 | 01:29 PM
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>Sorry my friend's truck is an 87 not an 88 anti-lock came
>along with the bodystyle change correct?
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The anti-lock may have changed with the '86/'87 body change but not with the '87/'87 carb fuel injection change. I have a '87 carb version with the anti-lock on the rear.
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Old Jul 27, 2002 | 03:12 PM
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That's right, all F-series trucks&Broncos were given rear anti-lock brakes for 1987.
 
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