max EGT's and other temps
#16
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Originally Posted by thedaddycat
I have a temp probe in the block plug and it usually runs in the 180-190 range. I have seen over that, but only when the snow plow was on and I was pushing snow. If I did a lot of plowing I would consider a pusher fan for those times when coolant temps start getting up in the 220-230 range.
Originally Posted by thedaddycat
Storm, you can use the tranny temp gage for more than one parameter. Just use a selector switch to go from point to point. I have mine set up to read the tranny, both diffs and coolant with oil temp to be added when I install the Oilguard and ESP luber systems.
https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/6...ut-gauges.html
I'm a little leary of doing something like that, when all probes hinge on one gauge. If something were to go wrong, it would affect not only one probe, but it would also affect everything that is being read by that one gauge. In order for it to work you would have to have electrical gauges and when electrical things go wrong, if you have alot of dependants on one spot, things can get rough.
#17
Originally Posted by Storm
Coolant Temp 190F is pretty much what it will sit at when warmed up.. In 100F summers mine never went over 192F
#18
Originally Posted by jmaskew
I just recently installed an Isspro Water Temp gauge and placed the sender unit in the engine block on the drivers side. I have noticed the temp gauge registering between 188 and 192 degrees at normal driving conditions. The outside temp here in Las Vegas has been around mid 50's during the day. Even in the mornings when it is in the 40's I am seeing these temps. When I installed the sender unit I used the Autometer 16mm adapter, when I fastened the sender into the adapter the tip was still inside the adapter (about 1/4 in) and not poking out the other side. When the sender is fastened into the 3/8in adapter that came with the sender (that you can't use), the tip sticks out about a half inch or so. It just seems to me that a more accurate reading will take place if more of the senders tip is exposed to the water when inside the block. What do you think?
Its not going to make a difference if the tip is inside the jacket or not.. Once you place that fitting in there your creating a void that will be filled with coolant.. Temperature across water radiates.. Now if we were talking EGT, then yes, you'd want more of the probe's tip into the center channel of the exhaust flow..
But your temp sensor is fine.. Infact you put it in a damn good place too
#19
Originally Posted by Storm
Your reading the right temp..
Its not going to make a difference if the tip is inside the jacket or not.. Once you place that fitting in there your creating a void that will be filled with coolant.. Temperature across water radiates.. Now if we were talking EGT, then yes, you'd want more of the probe's tip into the center channel of the exhaust flow..
But your temp sensor is fine.. Infact you put it in a damn good place too
Its not going to make a difference if the tip is inside the jacket or not.. Once you place that fitting in there your creating a void that will be filled with coolant.. Temperature across water radiates.. Now if we were talking EGT, then yes, you'd want more of the probe's tip into the center channel of the exhaust flow..
But your temp sensor is fine.. Infact you put it in a damn good place too
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#22
Here is a "first pass" at a list of the typical parameters and their normal and max readings. I do not have much first hand experience with these readings (no gauges YET), but I have done a fair amount of research. I would appreciate ANY and ALL comments - especially in two areas:
1. Fuel pressure minimum - FDDTS warns not to go below 45 psig
2. Readings w/ tuners - I would appreciate all your feedback in this area.
Lastly - send some rep points to TX25025. Much of this is from his past posts and some recent input.
Remember - this is a work in progress.
POST IS TOO LONG - I will post the tables in two more posts to follow ....
1. Fuel pressure minimum - FDDTS warns not to go below 45 psig
2. Readings w/ tuners - I would appreciate all your feedback in this area.
Lastly - send some rep points to TX25025. Much of this is from his past posts and some recent input.
Remember - this is a work in progress.
POST IS TOO LONG - I will post the tables in two more posts to follow ....
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Do tuners really make these powertrains run that much hotter? Maybe if you were racing around a track (not likely in an 8000 pound truck) but it seems like just driving around town the temps should be about the same.
By the way, great post Bismic. Very helpful...who knows how many times there is a OK running temp thread.
By the way, great post Bismic. Very helpful...who knows how many times there is a OK running temp thread.
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Originally Posted by Momorris
Do tuners really make these powertrains run that much hotter?
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Originally Posted by bismic
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BORDER-LEFT: #d4d0c8; BORDER-BOTTOM: #d4d0c8; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" x:str="'160 - 195">160 - 195</TD><TD class=xl25 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #d4d0c8; BORDER-TOP: #d4d0c8; BORDER-LEFT: #d4d0c8; BORDER-BOTTOM: #d4d0c8; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" x:str="'195 - 205">195 - 205</TD><TD class=xl25 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #d4d0c8; BORDER-TOP: #d4d0c8; BORDER-LEFT: #d4d0c8; BORDER-BOTTOM: #d4d0c8; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" x:num>210</TD><TD class=xl26 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #d4d0c8; BORDER-TOP: #d4d0c8; BORDER-LEFT: #d4d0c8; BORDER-BOTTOM: #d4d0c8; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent">230 - light comes on</TD></TR><TR style="HEIGHT: 12.75pt" height=17><TD class=xl24 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #d4d0c8; BORDER-TOP: #d4d0c8; BORDER-LEFT: #d4d0c8; BORDER-BOTTOM: #d4d0c8; HEIGHT: 12.75pt; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" height=17>Coolant Temp</TD><TD class=xl25 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #d4d0c8; BORDER-TOP: #d4d0c8; BORDER-LEFT: #d4d0c8; BORDER-BOTTOM: #d4d0c8; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" x:str="'190 - 195">190 - 195</TD><TD class=xl25 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #d4d0c8; 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#28
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Originally Posted by jmaskew
I have had my Isspro Coolant temp gauge in for a couple of months now. The coolant temp for every day driving around town runs around 200 to 210. On the chart above that is severe service. On the freeway keeping constant RPM's traveling between 70 and 75, the temp will sit at around 195. These temps seem like the norm for my truck. Anyone else seeing similar coolant temps?
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