i have a 31 coupe with a 1969 lincoln 460 engine with a c6. i am converting to a 4spd top loader. i need a flywheel but this is a low budget car(under $3500)so i dont want to buy a $400 460 flywheel. Will a 360 or 390 flywheel work? (they are cheaper than 429 and 460 flywheels) ...also will a 460 mt starter work on a 360/390 flywheel?

 

390 flywheels work on the 460's im not shure about the starters i used one i found in my junk pile dont know what it come from

 

Starters will not interchange between 460's and FE engines.

FE starters are all the same manual or automatic and have three mounting holes.

460 Starters are the same manual or automatic: 1968 thru at least 1991.

First F Series truck with a 460 with manual transmission: 1983.

 

ok..so a FE 390 flywheel will bolt to a 385 series 460, a 460 starter will work on the 390 flywheel,but the 390 starter will not bolt to a 460 bellhousing...thanks!

 

All I know is the starter drive is the same as 460/390 = the starter drive.

Not the actual starter. The FE starter is different than a 460.

 

Johncart, The FE starters are 3 bolt, the I-6 & Windsor series are all 2 bolt, and I have no idea if the 460 uses a 2 bolt or not.

Bill should be able to compare that, by part number I would think.


John

 

2) 387467-S2 .. Starter Mounting Bolt / 3/8"-16 X 1 1/4" // 289/302/351C/351M/351W/400/429/460

 

the 460 has a heavy duty starter but the others bolt right on.its a 2 bolt the same as a 351 etc,.

 

thanks for all the help...i ended up buying a new 460 flywheel online $134..but now i need to sell my clutchplate and pressure plate(both never used)as they are 12" and the flywheel is for an 11" system any takers? all i want is $70 for the whole kit and free shipping?

 

Ok first thing We need to know is what bellhousing are You going to use? If You are useing a Lakewood it is set up to use 390 parts as in pull Your 390 out and replace it with a 460 useing 390 flywheel (184-tooth) starter and all. If You are planning to use a 351-400M bellhousing You will need a custom flywheel from say Mcleod with the same 176-tooth as the 351-400M. Now hit the Swap Meets to find cheep parts!;-)

 

i have a bell housing out of an 85 truck that had a 460 in it,purchased an aftermarket flywheel for it that uses an 11" clutch system.. i have a top loader for it and only need an 11" clutch system for it(one i had was a 12"..thats for sale($70) or trade for an 11 incher

 

Make sure the input shaft on You top loader is the right length. I didn't know the 80's bellhousings had the same bolt pattern for the trans as the earlier car 4 speeds

 

well thats the problem with flying blind here...i just found out that the clutch plate(12") is too big for my flywheel that needs a 11" plate)...the bolt pattern on the toploader is the same as the trans that was in the 85 truck....(thank God)...but....i just checked and the shaft length is not good...with the trans bolted up to the bellhousing, and a straight edge placed across the engine side of the bellhousing, the input shaft falls short about 1/4"....i dont have the engine handy now to check but does anyone know if the pilot brg hole is closer to the transmission than where the bellhousing touches the engine? (so that the input shaft will be in the pilot brg)

 

i put a 69 460 into a 76 with 435 4 sp. this is my solution. in 69 ford did nt put standards behind the 460, 429 only. the pilot hole is not sized to a pilot bearing that i cold puchase. this is the inside (deepest part of crank). the outer part is the same size as the fe/429 . i took a fe pilot bearing and had it turned down to fit crank. when installed i could also install a auto without interference. i used a 390 flywheel ,a 351m/400 bellhousing, 11" clutch,and used 3 factory blockplates this gave me no problems with starter engagement or input shaft contact.if you use a 12" clutch ,you need a lakewood or a truck (f350 & up) 400/429 with the 12" clutch bellhousing.these have more clearence at top of flywheel. the teeth count on ringgear never gave any trouble. i believe the count for the 351/400 was 180 tooth,429 was 176,and the 390 is 184.L&L makes a complete kit for any application,without any mods.

 

Just to clarify the above info.

No F100/350 ever came with a 429 engine. 460's only beginning in 1973.

1973/82: F100/350 460 engines were equipped with C6's only.

1983: First year the 460 engine in a F Series truck was offered with a 4 speed transmission.

The 429's with a 4 speed manual were only used in the following cars:

1969 Ford LTD/XL/Galaxie. 11 1/2" clutch.

1969/71: Ford Mustang & Torino/Fairlane. 11 12" clutch.

1969/71: Mercury Montego & Cougar. 11 1/2" clutch.

C9AZ-6375-A .. 429 Flywheel (except CJ; S/CJ & Boss) 176 teeth / marked: C9AE-A / 15 3/8" diameter / (6) 5/16" -18 pressure plate attaching holes on a 12 7/8" diameter bolt circle.

C9AZ-6375-C .. 429 Flywheel (CJ; S/CJ & Boss) 176 teeth / unmarked / same dimensions as above.