Expedition Diesel!!!
#1
Expedition Diesel!!!
Ford Motor Company, Are you listening?!?!?!?!?
Chevy has the Tahoe hybrid and variable displacement in the 1500 and the Tahoe and they still gake good power. Jeep Cherokee, Dodge Duragno and Dakota are offering the Benz diesel that can tow up to 9,000 lbs and gets 25 MPG solo.
I want a Expedition diesel and I want to tow my 10,500 lbs camper with it.
Chevy has the Tahoe hybrid and variable displacement in the 1500 and the Tahoe and they still gake good power. Jeep Cherokee, Dodge Duragno and Dakota are offering the Benz diesel that can tow up to 9,000 lbs and gets 25 MPG solo.
I want a Expedition diesel and I want to tow my 10,500 lbs camper with it.
#4
I have a 6.0 in my F-350 and I love it. I get 13 MPG towing a 10,500lbs camper no gas rig will ever do that. I want a diesel SUV and I will get one this summer. Hopefully Ford will have something for me by then. Should b pretty easy, after all they are gong to put a diesel in the F-50 this year and that is about the same chassis. Other wise my wife will be driving the Jeep diesel. Our Excursion is ready to be replaced. Oh yea, I get 20 mpg on the highway with that big heavy thing.
Originally Posted by berry1234
All the Ford diesel trucks in our fleet never get anywhere near the listed MPG. They get about the same as the gas trucks. Plus the cost of diesel is outrageous.
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I have owned Starke Koa Kampground for the last 8 year's,trust me when I say I've seen it all or most of it ,I own a 2002 F350 7.3 PSD,4 speed auto,4:10's, 4 door long bed dullie pulling a 2004 sunnybrook 31 bwks,32 ft 5'th wheel with 3 slide's,at the truck stop scale I weigh 20900#'s,I get 9-11 MPG loaded and 15 -17 empty depending on head wind's,hill's and the big one "SPEED",In the park now I have 2-2008's,one same boady style as mine except it's a F450 with the 6.4 PSD and the 5 speed auto with the 4:30's pulling a new landmark 38 ft with 4 slide's,he get's 7 MPG top's loaded and 13-14 empty,the other a F350 extended cab short bed,4x2, not a dullie, with the V10 and 5 speed auto, pulling a new bighorn 39 ft with 4 slide's,he get's 9 MPG loaded and 14 MPG empty,never ever compare the older pre regin diesel truck's with the new one's with the regin crap,let's see,2 x's the amt of oil in the crankcase,dubble the price of oil filter's,ungodly price's for fuel filter's and a what, $5000.00 up charge for the diesel over the V10,it used to be fun having a diesel but at $0.30- $0.40 a gal premum on diesel who need's it,love my old 7.3,but it's the last diesel I'll own,the EPA has gone nut's with this,go to www.forddieseldoctorsdts.com/,click on article's and go down to the diesel emission's article and look at the graph of diesel emission reduction's from 1991 tell now,it's nut's and job security at the epa,they will not rest tell they get pure oxygen at the tailpipe,thank's EPA for screwing up a great thing.
Last edited by poppie; 01-04-2008 at 03:22 PM.
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Originally Posted by poppie
I have owned Starke Koa Kampground for the last 8 year's,trust me when I say I've seen it all or most of it ,I own a 2002 F350 7.3 PSD,4 speed auto,4:10's, 4 door long bed dullie pulling a 2004 sunnybrook 31 bwks,32 ft 5'th wheel with 3 slide's,at the truck stop scale I weigh 20900#'s,I get 9-11 MPG loaded and 15 -17 empty depending on head wind's,hill's and the big one "SPEED",In the park now I have 2-2008's,one same boady style as mine except it's a F450 with the 6.4 PSD and the 5 speed auto with the 4:30's pulling a new landmark 38 ft with 4 slide's,he get's 7 MPG top's loaded and 13-14 empty,the other a F350 extended cab short bed,4x2, not a dullie, with the V10 and 5 speed auto, pulling a new bighorn 39 ft with 4 slide's,he get's 9 MPG loaded and 14 MPG empty,never ever compare the older pre regin diesel truck's with the new one's with the regin crap,let's see,2 x's the amt of oil in the crankcase,dubble the price of oil filter's,ungodly price's for fuel filter's and a what, $5000.00 up charge for the diesel over the V10,it used to be fun having a diesel but at $0.30- $0.40 a gal premum on diesel who need's it,love my old 7.3,but it's the last diesel I'll own,the EPA has gone nut's with this,go to www.forddieseldoctorsdts.com/,click on article's and go down to the diesel emission's article and look at the graph of diesel emission reduction's from 1991 tell now,it's nut's and job security at the epa,they will not rest tell they get pure oxygen at the tailpipe,thank's EPA for screwing up a great thing.
well said. add reliability too.
#7
You are comparing apples and oranges. I dont think they will ever put a V-10 in the expedition. And the 5.4 just doesn't do the trick. The fuel mileage sucks, and it lacks power just doesn't cut it. If I could get a diesel like the 4.4 I have been reading about that will be going in the F-150, I would buy it. Rate it to pull 10,000 lbs and I am in. I rented a Range Rover with that diesel when I was in europe great driving experience!!.
Originally Posted by poppie
I have owned Starke Koa Kampground for the last 8 year's,trust me when I say I've seen it all or most of it ,I own a 2002 F350 7.3 PSD,4 speed auto,4:10's, 4 door long bed dullie pulling a 2004 sunnybrook 31 bwks,32 ft 5'th wheel with 3 slide's,at the truck stop scale I weigh 20900#'s,I get 9-11 MPG loaded and 15 -17 empty depending on head wind's,hill's and the big one "SPEED",In the park now I have 2-2008's,one same boady style as mine except it's a F450 with the 6.4 PSD and the 5 speed auto with the 4:30's pulling a new landmark 38 ft with 4 slide's,he get's 7 MPG top's loaded and 13-14 empty,the other a F350 extended cab short bed,4x2, not a dullie, with the V10 and 5 speed auto, pulling a new bighorn 39 ft with 4 slide's,he get's 9 MPG loaded and 14 MPG empty,never ever compare the older pre regin diesel truck's with the new one's with the regin crap,let's see,2 x's the amt of oil in the crankcase,dubble the price of oil filter's,ungodly price's for fuel filter's and a what, $5000.00 up charge for the diesel over the V10,it used to be fun having a diesel but at $0.30- $0.40 a gal premum on diesel who need's it,love my old 7.3,but it's the last diesel I'll own,the EPA has gone nut's with this,go to www.forddieseldoctorsdts.com/,click on article's and go down to the diesel emission's article and look at the graph of diesel emission reduction's from 1991 tell now,it's nut's and job security at the epa,they will not rest tell they get pure oxygen at the tailpipe,thank's EPA for screwing up a great thing.
Last edited by mnmwhit; 01-04-2008 at 07:35 PM.
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#8
Originally Posted by mnmwhit
You are comparing apples and oranges. I dont think they will ever put a V-10 in the expedition. And the 5.4 just doesn't do the trick. The fuel mileage sucks, and it lacks power just doesn't cut it. If I could get a diesel like the 4.4 I have been reading about that will be going in the F-150, I would buy it. Rate it to pull 10,000 lbs and I am in. I rented a Range Rover with that diesel when I was in europe great driving experience!!.
#9
I agree with above.....the 5.4 is a much stronger motor than you're giving it credit. My buddy has the same year 5.4 as my 7.3L and pound for pound he can almost pull with me, he does have lower gears though....and doesn't get near fuel mileage. I can pull 13 MPGs in either of my powerstrokes pulling my 3K flatbed and a 6K truck on the back. He'll get about 8.
#10
Originally Posted by scottie2hottie
I agree with above.....the 5.4 is a much stronger motor than you're giving it credit. My buddy has the same year 5.4 as my 7.3L and pound for pound he can almost pull with me, he does have lower gears though....and doesn't get near fuel mileage. I can pull 13 MPGs in either of my powerstrokes pulling my 3K flatbed and a 6K truck on the back. He'll get about 8.
#11
OK I have driven the 5.4 3 valve with a 6 speed. It was pretty nice. But I would still prefer a diesel. I think it is a matter of personal preference. I do tow my camper (10,000lbs) alot in the summer and I think a diesel is better suited for the job I would just like to tow it with an SUV.
Ford needs to get with the program. Chevy just announced they are going to put a smaller 300hp Dura Max in the Suburban this year.
http://blogs.motortrend.com/6220069/...sic/index.html
check the link and scroll down to the suburban
Ford needs to get with the program. Chevy just announced they are going to put a smaller 300hp Dura Max in the Suburban this year.
http://blogs.motortrend.com/6220069/...sic/index.html
check the link and scroll down to the suburban
Last edited by mnmwhit; 01-11-2008 at 02:34 PM.
#13
Originally Posted by riverratt
If you tow 10,000 pounds a lot then you need a 3/4 ton chassis.
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