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Old Jan 2, 2008 | 09:05 AM
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What size engine to use/keep

I have a 78 F250 400 and I have been kicking around the idea to get the engine machined. I have also been wondering if I should go with a 302 instead of the 400 to help with gas. Now I can't decide so maybe some of you can throw out some pros/cons for me since I am not familiar with either engine to help me figure out what will work for my situation.

I plan to use this truck a long long time if I can. It will be a daily driver and will be used for work as needed, like carrying stuff in the bed or maybe pulling a trailer or whatever it could be used for. Would a 302 work good in a F250 3/4 Ton truck? Will there be alot of headach swapping from a 400 to 302? Will I still be able to fit headers on it? There are a couple of the questions that keep coming to mind. I know a guy that has access to a bunch of 302 that he can get for pretty cheap OR maybe free. If I were to go that route I would just save up and have it machined since it is already out. Machineing it will let me know that it is a good working engine like new.

I will get the 400 machined if I keep it but I wonder if I have more engine than is needed for my use. Trying to save myself gas money and such in the long run.

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Old Jan 2, 2008 | 09:20 AM
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If I was totally worry about gas; I would replace your 400 with a 300 inline six; IMHO; I beleive a 3/4 ton needs a larger engine like your 400 to tackle heavy payloads. I also beleive all 250 etc; gas mileage is not an option. I personnelly think you won't see a tremendous difference in the 302 verse 400 on gas; but in preformance, will be biggest change. Also rear axle ratio is a large factor, in mileage as well.
Just my two cents worth, others are more knowledgeable and will debate my comments.

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Old Jan 2, 2008 | 09:44 AM
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In my opinion, The 302 was one the best auto engines ever made but it is marginal in a f250. The torque is not in the right rpms to pull heavy loads for long periods of time. I owned a 92 f150 4x4 with 302, it was great running empty on the Interstate but with a load, it was always on the floor just to pull a slight hill and would lose speed rapidly backing up traffic. I also don't think you will see much of a mileage improvements. The 302 will not bolt up, you must make lots of changes like bell housings, motor mounts etc. Unless you have a donor truck with all the 302 pieces I think it will be expensive to change over. The 400 was designed for trucks with a strong low-end torque curve for pulling. I admit 400s, they do use lots of gas but my 302 4x4 truck empty only got around 15 mpg at best. Loaded about 10mpg. I hope this helps!!!!!! Bart
 
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Old Jan 2, 2008 | 10:20 AM
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Not sure on 4x4s... but with my 2wd, mileage stayed pretty much the same from a 302 to a 351W to a 460.
 
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Old Jan 2, 2008 | 10:26 AM
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I agree, I have a 302 and is low on torque as mentioned above.

Machine the 400, it will have some good towing power,
maybe include a good RV Cam and the right sized Hypereutectic pistons for good quenching .
 
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Old Jan 2, 2008 | 06:34 PM
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Thanks, this is what I needed to know. Since there really won't be much change in gas mileage and a very big project to to swap I will leave it alone and machine it.
 
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