engine i.d????what is it????
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engine i.d????what is it????
i just bought a 75 f-250. the guy didnt know what kind of engine it had in it.
the valve covers say mercury so im assuming its a mercury engine, and it has a two bbl carb on it it has pretty darn good power too. im assuming its either a 360, or a 390. is there any way i can decipher the serial no. and figure out what kind and year it is??? also, i have a couple pics of it if that would help
the valve covers say mercury so im assuming its a mercury engine, and it has a two bbl carb on it it has pretty darn good power too. im assuming its either a 360, or a 390. is there any way i can decipher the serial no. and figure out what kind and year it is??? also, i have a couple pics of it if that would help
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If you are really lucky, there is an aluminium tag under the bolt holding the ignition coil on the manifold. If no tag, you can measure the stroke with a wood dowel down the spark plug hole. About 3.5 stroke 352 or 360. About 3.78, it could be a 390, or a 427. About a 4 inch stroke, 410, or a 428. There is also a possibility of a "428" crankshaft being in a 427 block, and that would make a Ford 454.
The only way to know for sure is to take the engine apart, and measure the bore and stroke.
The only way to know for sure is to take the engine apart, and measure the bore and stroke.
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Originally Posted by crescentwrencher
i just bought a 75 f-250. the guy didnt know what kind of engine it had in it.
the valve covers say mercury so im assuming its a mercury engine, and it has a two bbl carb on it it has pretty darn good power too. im assuming its either a 360, or a 390. is there any way i can decipher the serial no. and figure out what kind and year it is??? also, i have a couple pics of it if that would help
the valve covers say mercury so im assuming its a mercury engine, and it has a two bbl carb on it it has pretty darn good power too. im assuming its either a 360, or a 390. is there any way i can decipher the serial no. and figure out what kind and year it is??? also, i have a couple pics of it if that would help
If it is really from a Mercury, it could be a 390/410/428, but only the 390 came with a 2V carb.
The first use of "Mercury" on a pent roof valve cover was in 1968.
The Mercury only 410 was used 1966/67, 428's used 1966/70. The stroke of a 410/428 is the same.
Bore & Stroke: 390 = 4.05" x 3.78" / 410 = 4.05" x 3.98" / 428 = 4.13" x 3.98"
The 360 2V was only installed in 1968/76 F100/350's...nothing else.
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which casting numbers do you need? and where are they. see i dont have access to the truck but i can tell my brother over the phone, so i need details
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The cylinder heads bewtween #2 and #3 spark plugs on passenger side, #6 and #7 on driver's side.
Engine block, passenger side above the oil pan rail or near the cylinder head. Casting dates under the oil filter adapter.
Sometimes the VIN is stamped on the rear of the driver's side cylinder head.
There is really no easy way to identify an FE engine other than to do a teardown. I highly and extremely doubt it is a 427 identified by cross bolts and side oiler passage.
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Engine block, passenger side above the oil pan rail or near the cylinder head. Casting dates under the oil filter adapter.
Sometimes the VIN is stamped on the rear of the driver's side cylinder head.
There is really no easy way to identify an FE engine other than to do a teardown. I highly and extremely doubt it is a 427 identified by cross bolts and side oiler passage.
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i just met a guy down at the parts store who told me its either a 352 or a 360. he said a 2bbl wouldnt be on a 390. he also said somthin about being a canadian truck. i guess its not all that far fetched being that i bought in oregon, and it has a little bit of rust. is he correct?
ill try to get the casting no.s for u but it may take awhile
ill try to get the casting no.s for u but it may take awhile
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Originally Posted by crescentwrencher
i just met a guy down at the parts store who told me its either a 352 or a 360. he said a 2bbl wouldnt be on a 390. he also said somthin about being a canadian truck. i guess its not all that far fetched being that i bought in oregon, and it has a little bit of rust. is he correct?
HELL NO!! Caca del Toro...where do these idiots come from?
That guy is absolutely positively FOS!!
All 1968/74 390's installed in F100/350's have 2 barrel carbs.
1975/76 F100/350's with 390's came with either a 2 barrel carb (H engine code) or optional 4 barrel carb (M engine code).
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1961/70: Galaxie/LTD/Mercury/Mustang/Cougar/Montego/Fairlane/Torino 390's could be had with either a 2 or 4 barrel carb.
Intake manifolds can be swapped, so while it has a 2 barrel carb on it now = that doesn't mean diddly squat what size the engine is.
FE 2 or 4V intake manifolds can be swapped from 1958 thru 1976.
How can the idiot make a reference to Canada without knowing the assembly plant location?
Besides, Canada has NOTHING to do with what size the engine is.
A 352 or 390 (or ANY engine except the Mercury only 410) installed in a Mercury is the same engine as installed in a Ford...no freakin' difference.
Casting numbers DO NOT translate to part numbers.
Many FE engines have 352 cast on the block-left side front, but that means nothing as to what actual size the engine is.
352 raw block casting number: When finished, the engine bare block could be one of the following: 352/360/390/410/428.
Excepting Crew Cabs, most trucks assembled in Canada were for the Canadian market.
A truck sold new in CA, OR, WA, NV, AZ was prolly built in San Jose, CA. A few were built in Kansas City.
5th digit in the VIN is the assembly plant code: R = San Jose / K = Kansas City.
I've NEVER seen a VIN on an engine = ever.
Just think of the assembly plant logistics involved!
The VIN would have to be stamped on the engine AFTER it was installed. Not an easy task, considering the speed of an assembly line. An impossible task, if at the rear of the engine.
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Originally Posted by fatherdoug
Did somebody just push your buttons, numberdummy? 
I see crappy info everyday here on FTE.
I'm getting tired of fixing others mistakes.
"Someone told me...!"
Uh huh..yeah right!
Most ppl that have never owned these old piles of misery, have no klew...and guess-timate what is supposed to be original.
That..."no 390's had a 2 barrel carb BULL SCHEISS is GOOD FRIGGEN EXAMPLE."
If one doesn't know what's right and guesses, by opening their gopher trap, the crappy misleading info will be all over the internet in a NY minute.
Go ahead and laugh...but if wrong info causes you to have a pain in the backside, and an empty wallet to go along with it...don't blame me.
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