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Old Dec 29, 2007 | 06:36 PM
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2 ways of doing it, two different opinions. No personal attacks please, its the holidays anyway. My dad would cut and weld, I would pull the engine. It just the way the world is gonna be. If money is tight when mine starts leaking, I would give the cut weld a shot. And that is only because I know the best welder in the world.

By the way, custom hitches are welded to the frame all the time. They are stronger and safer than class III hitches amd I would rather see someone pulling a load properly with a custom heavy duty hitch welded to the frame than overloaded on a class III. JMO.
 
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Old Dec 29, 2007 | 06:45 PM
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Originally Posted by pullinair
2 ways of doing it, two different opinions. No personal attacks please, its the holidays anyway. My dad would cut and weld, I would pull the engine. It just the way the world is gonna be. If money is tight when mine starts leaking, I would give the cut weld a shot. And that is only because I know the best welder in the world.

By the way, custom hitches are welded to the frame all the time. They are stronger and safer than class III hitches amd I would rather see someone pulling a load properly with a custom heavy duty hitch welded to the frame than overloaded on a class III. JMO.
Thats what I'm talking about now. I would pull the engine, we've done a few PSD's. I don't think they are that difficult with the proper tools and good friend to help.
 
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Old Dec 29, 2007 | 08:46 PM
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I build cars myself. I have welded countless frames.If you know what you are doing,it is usually stronger than the factorys job.I know the frame needs to be flexible on many applications,but I did not alter the engineering by welding the Xmember back together in this case.

Hell,it has a HUGE hole right in the middle anyway!

Too bad Ford didn't make that hole just a bit bigger...
What welder do you use to put it back together with?
A 220v wire feed?
 
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Old Dec 29, 2007 | 09:09 PM
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Yup.220v MIG. NO overheated metal.Strong.Simple.

It works.
 
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Old Dec 30, 2007 | 10:30 AM
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ok...heres a serious question on how to replace the oil pan without removing the engine...completly!

would it be possible to raise the engine high enough to remove the crossmember(cut rivets) then go that route? Might have to disconnect a few things like the exhaust, fuel lines (maybe the trans.)

Anybody know of any "intsructions" to remove a 7.3 from a SD? Like step by step instructions????
 
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Old Dec 30, 2007 | 11:12 AM
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How about you just tig weld a patch on the oil pan right over the leaking area? If youre going to cut corners by not removing the engine, just eliminate any corners, right?
 
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Old Dec 30, 2007 | 12:45 PM
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"If youre going to cut corners by not removing the engine, just eliminate any corners, right?"

You guys crack me up! HA!!
 
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Old Dec 30, 2007 | 12:48 PM
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Thanks for all of your responses. As my pan is not leaking, I will try to repair it first. However, in my experience, once something has started to rust it is only a matter of time until the rust wins out regardless of what type of repair you try. And by the way I don't consider myself "careless enough to let my pan rust". I don't crawl under my truck on a dialy basis to check everything out. I live in Michigan where the roads get salted all winter long so if you don't own a trailer queen that never gets driven your vehicle WILL get rusted on the underside if you leave the factory finish on parts. I would have expected Ford to use a better material or coating on the oil pan because the trans pan looks like it is going to go forever.
 
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Old Dec 30, 2007 | 12:53 PM
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Since its not rusted through yet, I'd reccomend POR-15. It works great on rusted metal. Check it out and see for yourself. http://www.por15.com/ We used it on my brothers truck frame and it held up great. Just take the time to do it right and you wont have future problems. Good Luck!
 
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Old Dec 30, 2007 | 12:54 PM
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Originally Posted by king121893
However, in my experience, once something has started to rust it is only a matter of time until the rust wins out regardless of what type of repair you try.
Take another look at the link in Post #3 above for the POR-15.

It's remarkable stuff.

Prep is everything!

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Old Dec 30, 2007 | 01:56 PM
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First off, I agree, new ideas need to be initiated and tried, if it fails, oh well. The best inventions were designed based on many people saying it shouldn't be done.

That being said, some like Fords, some like Dodges and some like Chevys and so on......
my point being is that there is a seat for every butt.....do what you want, that's the beauty of America. BOTH ways work, and I can tell you I WOULD do the cut and weld thing myself with full confidence.

Ford (and many manufacturers) all say NOT to modify anything on their vehicles.....plows, hitches, exhaust, etc.
I have a Ford Buddy who says he can disconnect the motor-mounts and raise the front of the moter enough to wressle out the oil pan.....he hates doing it, but has done a few on his tow trucks.
Anyway, whatever works and whatever you prefer is it........
 
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Old Dec 30, 2007 | 05:10 PM
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How about you just tig weld a patch on the oil pan right over the leaking area? If youre going to cut corners by not removing the engine, just eliminate any corners, right?

That is just awesome!!!! Props to u man....lol
 
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Old Dec 30, 2007 | 05:55 PM
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I think if you just do the por-15.Exactly as stated in its instructions you will be amazed at the results.I will never use anything else.Good luck
 
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Old Dec 30, 2007 | 05:59 PM
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forgot to mention.Get the starter kit.It comes with everything you need.To include the ruber gloves.I think it was $25.You on ly get a 4oz. can with that.I thought it might not be enough.Turns out I put three coats on and still had plenty left over.
 
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Old Feb 14, 2008 | 11:52 AM
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I have a 2000 psd and I cut the crossmember out (with no adverse effects mind you) The problem is that I still have leaks. I tried it twice. There seems to be a huge gap at the back off the pan. Is this gap normal? I think I'm just not getting enough Ultra black RTV on it but I am not sure the gap should be that big. It's about a half inch. What should I do? I have never had this kind of problem sealing an oil pan. What gives?
 
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