Bad GP Situation?
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Bad GP Situation?
Hello again.
I just lost all 8 of my GPs. I guess the controller must have turned them on when I wasn't paying attention. Going the the manually switched route with Berus...
The old plugs were Autolites, and although none of them lost the tips, three of them blew the side out, and were a bit of a pain to extract. Bits of whatever the outer surface is made of are missing. Is this a teardown situation? I sure don't feel like pulling the heads off right now, although I'm beginning to think that I may be losing a little compression on one of the cylinders...
I just lost all 8 of my GPs. I guess the controller must have turned them on when I wasn't paying attention. Going the the manually switched route with Berus...
The old plugs were Autolites, and although none of them lost the tips, three of them blew the side out, and were a bit of a pain to extract. Bits of whatever the outer surface is made of are missing. Is this a teardown situation? I sure don't feel like pulling the heads off right now, although I'm beginning to think that I may be losing a little compression on one of the cylinders...
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How big were the missing tip parts?
Outer skin is inconnel, same thing turbo exhaust fans are made out of.
Well it is inconnel on the Beru plug, no idea what Autolite uses.
What year engine?
Outer skin is inconnel, same thing turbo exhaust fans are made out of.
Well it is inconnel on the Beru plug, no idea what Autolite uses.
What year engine?
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Thanks for the replies. The missing material is on the side of the plugs, and the largest missing portion is about .25" x .25" I'm trying to figure out how to attach a jpeg, but haven't got it yet...
I'm not really sure when during my workday the failure occurred, and am afraid that the engine was probably run for some time with these pieces potentially inside. What is inconnel? I realize that these may be comprised of something entirely different, but will inconnel break apart easily? Will it pass without damage?
Yep, I've been thinking that I need to put up new info, as I've gotten a couple of new trucks. This one is an '84 F350, 6.9, T19, Sterling rear, (4.10?)
Thanks.
I'm not really sure when during my workday the failure occurred, and am afraid that the engine was probably run for some time with these pieces potentially inside. What is inconnel? I realize that these may be comprised of something entirely different, but will inconnel break apart easily? Will it pass without damage?
Yep, I've been thinking that I need to put up new info, as I've gotten a couple of new trucks. This one is an '84 F350, 6.9, T19, Sterling rear, (4.10?)
Thanks.
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Originally Posted by roycec
Okay. Pics of the two worst GPs are now in my gallery. Couldn't seem to insert them directly into the message.
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More than you want to know about inconel, I had to many nn's in it.
http://www.suppliersonline.com/prope...el722.asp#Spec
Valves, valve seats, turbo internals and glow plug sheaths are where you would find inconel in your engine.
Those are so small and thin, they probably went out with the exhaust, but could have been caught by the exhaust valve.
http://www.suppliersonline.com/prope...el722.asp#Spec
Valves, valve seats, turbo internals and glow plug sheaths are where you would find inconel in your engine.
Those are so small and thin, they probably went out with the exhaust, but could have been caught by the exhaust valve.
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Thanks, Breech. Howdya do it?
Appreciate it, Dave. That's what I was hoping for. I guess I'll just run it and hope for the best for now. I've got one of those early blocks that someone cracked with the heater. If I can manage to fix the water jacket, then I might pull the heads at that point.
Thanks!
Appreciate it, Dave. That's what I was hoping for. I guess I'll just run it and hope for the best for now. I've got one of those early blocks that someone cracked with the heater. If I can manage to fix the water jacket, then I might pull the heads at that point.
Thanks!
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If you think that a repair is possible to the cracked block at the block heater.. there are a million guys waiting for the answer........ everything possible had been tried and I mean everything. Sorry........
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That problem was only 83, 84 and very early 85 engines.
Just looks like a crack starting at the block heater hole radiating out away from the hole.
Usually in the general direction the heater element was pointed.
I have seen it, but never took a picture of one.
I should take more pictures than I do.
Just looks like a crack starting at the block heater hole radiating out away from the hole.
Usually in the general direction the heater element was pointed.
I have seen it, but never took a picture of one.
I should take more pictures than I do.
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