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Old 12-26-2007, 05:12 PM
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T5 in 88 ranger, hydraulic or cable clutch?

Got a 88 Ranger that I swaped a 302 and AOD in and have been driving it for over a year.Not very happy with the AOD and the next project is to swap out the AOD for a T5.My question is if I should use a hydraulic or cable clutch? I have a stock mustang cable and I thought about trying to adapt the stock ranger pedal to operate the cable. Another option would be to use a internal hydraulic release bearing and the stock Ranger clutch master cylinder. Any one have any ideas? Thanks in advance for any help.


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Old 12-27-2007, 06:26 PM
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I can't speak to if it can be done but I'd vote for hydraulic every time since that takes away the adjustment factor present with a cable. I always figured that was a big reason they moved to hydraulic. Plus I'll never forget being stranded in an early Audi my father made the mistake of buying due to a snapped cable.
 
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Old 12-27-2007, 06:41 PM
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Use the hydraulic. The cable can be done but the Ranger floor and firewall isn't the best to work with. All you need is the proper wilwood slave and a home-made bracket to get the job done. A quick online search will come up with the slave that you need.

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Old 12-27-2007, 09:21 PM
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Thanks for the help.
Years ago I did a hydraulic slave cylinder with a home made bracket, I used a slaver cylinder that looked like a brake slave cylinder. It worked but it had a extremly hard pedal. I am guessing that the slave needs to be sized to the master?Do you think the wilwood slave would work with the stock ranger master?


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Old 12-28-2007, 01:12 AM
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There are 4 aeros in Lugansk with manual trannies. My 3.0 with Volga tranny, other 2.3, one with Transit 2.5 TDI engine, other with 2.8 Mercedes Sprinter Turbo CDI engine....

We all used different clutches. 3 hydravlis and one cable controlled (from Mustang 2.3)/.

I think hydravlic is much easier to install.
 
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Old 12-28-2007, 08:13 AM
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Rangers used hydraulics from about 85 on. The slave was internal to the trans. I don't know about Mustangs.

The 87/88 Thunderbirds with the 4 cylinder used the T5 trans, however, the slave was external to the trans. It is held in place by a bracket holding it against the shift fork. I like this better than the internal slave. I don't know if the T5 will accept an internal slave else the t-birds would porbably have had one. jd
 
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Old 12-28-2007, 08:27 AM
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The 87/88 Thunderbirds with the 4 cylinder used the T5 trans, however, the slave was external to the trans. It is held in place by a bracket holding it against the shift fork. I like this better than the internal slave. I don't know if the T5 will accept an internal slave else the t-birds would porbably have had one. jd
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I cut a hole, drilled holes for bracket and installed external slave cylinder on it.

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I can replace it w/o tranny drop.
 

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I decided to go with a external hydraulic clutch slave cylinder,I have the slave cylinder mounted, now the only problem is that I do not have the Ranger clutch line. The clutch master cylinder has a fitting that uses a roll pin to hold it in place.I will probably need to buy a stock ranger clutch line. Does anyone know what kind of fitting the slave clyinder end of the line has?If it is a quick disconnect fitting as I suspect, does anyone have a idea how to connect the quick disconnect line to a 1/8" pipe fitting?
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Old 01-07-2008, 08:44 PM
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Get one for one of the rangers that used the external slave it will be the same as the master end, flat rubber o-ring and roll pin. that is what my 1983 uses.
 

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Thanks for the info. I was afraid that the slave end of the line had the o ring and rool pin connection. The problem is the slave that I am using has a 1/8" pipe fitting.
Annother idea, is the line plastic all the way or is part of it steel? I was thinking of brazing on a pipe fitting if part of the line was steel.

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I made a steel clutch line. 1/8" rubber tube connects line with slave cyl.
 
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Old 01-14-2008, 09:58 PM
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Finally got the thing going, started out with a stock clutch master cylinder and a 1"bore external mounted push slave cylinder.This setup did not provide enough travel to fully release the clutch. Then I replaced this with a 3/4" bore slave cylinder and it works fine now.If anyone has any questions on how to put a external clutch slave cylinder on a T5 in a Ranger just ask.
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Old 01-15-2008, 12:25 AM
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My GF and my brother say "it is so difficult to depress clutch fully, seems like driving semitracktor".... I used to think to get in-line clutch booster from military truck, but now I got used to drive with my clutch. Now when I drive my brother's Skoda (it is really VW Polo, but a bit enlarged) I can not start well, I do not feel clutch, it is funny but sometimes engine stalls... He says " how you drive big trucks and cant drive small and new car....."
 
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I know exactly what you mean, although to a lesser degree.

I learned to drive stickshift using my dad's Mazda Miata (what a fun car to drive).

Later on I bought a little stickshift ford ranger with 2.0liter, for working and stuff. When I first drove it, it felt like I was throwing my arm out to shift it.

Now I'm used to it, and when I go to drive the Miata, I feel like I might break that little thing!
 
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