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Old Dec 26, 2007 | 01:53 PM
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What happens if someone tries to start or starts a PSD before the “Wait to start”/Glow plug light goes off? What I’m trying to get to is, I had this arrogant tow truck guy jumping my batteries and he had no clue how to start a Diesel. He just started my truck like a car and that very night I noticed that two roof clearance lights burnt out which was immediately followed by right headlight bulb. Would this be related? I mean the truck was in storage for last 9 months so I have no idea if somethng else happened to it...
 
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Old Dec 26, 2007 | 03:43 PM
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Ive seen someone try an start a 7.3PSD without waiting for the WTS light, It was about 50degs outside and the truck just kept turning over. It didnt start untill he waited for the WTS light to go out. If the engine was warm I think it wouldnt be that bad, but I always wait for my glow plugs. As for your lights burning out, I wouldnt think that not waiting for the WTS would have anything to do with it. I would have slapped the dummy for doing that to my truck tho lol.
 
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Old Dec 26, 2007 | 03:50 PM
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Being able to just "car-start" the 7.3 will depend a lot on your HPOP condition. Mine i evidently fine, because I've only waited for the WTS light about 5 times in the 25,000 miles I've owned my '02 in the past 15 months. Now, when it was a lowly 32 degrees on Christmas eve morning, it did seem a little dull at wanting to start, but it did it all the same after winding on the starter for about 8 seconds.

All the diesel guys I've talked to about this have told me that if the trucks starts easy that way, there isn't a problem with doing it that way. On top of that, I can honestly say that the few times I have waited for the WTS light to go off, it actually takes the truck LONGER to start than if I just hit the switch adn fire her off.

Just my experience.
 
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Old Dec 26, 2007 | 05:50 PM
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All the glow plugs do is preheat the combustion area so that the engine will start easier, and also have afterglow for the cylinders that were open when the glow plugs were energized. they will not and can not do any other damage inside the electrical system.
 
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Old Dec 27, 2007 | 12:47 AM
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The way I have it figured is if it didnt need to be on there then ford would have left if off ...I will take the time to let the glow plugs heat before I start cranking on it
 
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Old Dec 27, 2007 | 03:43 AM
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The way I have it figured is if it didnt need to be on there then ford would have left if off ...I will take the time to let the glow plugs heat before I start cranking on it
I agree. I cant see how it it would be easy on the glow plug system by not waiting and also the starter. If u wait the 10-15 seconds to start it by using the glow plugs, it probably takes less time to start.
 
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Old Dec 27, 2007 | 06:49 AM
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The only thing not waiting will do other than maybe some extra cranking is the extra draw on the battery that the alternator has to make back up.My truck won't fire unless i wait, so I wait. I prefer to wait generally anyway, just saying no damage will come from not waiting if it fires up easy.
 
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Old Dec 27, 2007 | 08:06 AM
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If the engine is warm, it shouldn't matter. I have caught myself doing it in the summer.
 
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I've accidentally done it a time or two. I get used to one vehicle's characteristics and then switch, and then instinctively do what the last vehicle needed. I've turned the key in my patrol car or my wife's Jeep to the accessory position and waited for a dash light until I realized I was in a gas vehicle and I've hopped in my truck and fired it up without waiting. The only side affect I've ever noticed is I started it without waiting at about 35 degrees and got a puff of white smoke at start up, which it doesn't normally do. It's never failed to start or given me any kinds of problems.
 
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Old Dec 27, 2007 | 11:46 AM
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The glow plug circuit is a totally independent system & doesn't know when or if the starter is engaged or not. It also doesn't know if the engine is running or not. Not waiting for the wait to start light to go out will not hurt your truck in anyway. Waiting for it to go out MAY start your truck quicker once the starter is engaged.
 
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Old Dec 27, 2007 | 01:22 PM
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The way I have it figured is if it didnt need to be on there then ford would have left if off...
You have to be a little wary about trusting Ford's wisdom regarding everything they decided to leave on our engines. For example... the quick-connect fittings on the fuel lines that suck in air on the suction side of the fuel pump, or the extended fuel vent line that makes complete fillups a painfully tedious task, or the imbalanced fuel and oil rails, or probably a number of other things that actually either hurt efficiency or do nothing useful to help it.
 
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Old Dec 27, 2007 | 05:32 PM
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Thanks guys, that answers all my concerns...
 
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Old Dec 29, 2007 | 06:18 PM
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I do it all the time, because I have a dash mounted switch that disables the glow plugs unless I WANT them to work. So the WTS light doesn't mean anything in my case, unless I also turn the dash switch on.

They're not needed unless it is below 45 deg or so when I go to start it. Essentially, as long as it starts, no point in waiting.
 
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Old Dec 29, 2007 | 08:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Vijay
What happens if someone tries to start or starts a PSD before the “Wait to start”/Glow plug light goes off? What I’m trying to get to is, I had this arrogant tow truck guy jumping my batteries and he had no clue how to start a Diesel. He just started my truck like a car and that very night I noticed that two roof clearance lights burnt out which was immediately followed by right headlight bulb. Would this be related? I mean the truck was in storage for last 9 months so I have no idea if somethng else happened to it...
The jump start might have caused the lights to blow out, but who knows, if you haven't used it in 9 mo. My brother's fancy new Tahoe got a jump start (battery died after about 15 min. with the radio on!) and his fancy Nav/DVD unit crapped out right afterward....
 
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Old Dec 30, 2007 | 01:34 AM
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Although waiting till the light goes out might be a little easier on your starter, but does not mater glow plugs run after the motor is running
 
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