SCT X3.....Guages????
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SCT X3.....Guages????
I have hear a lot of people on here talk abot gauges if you are running a tuner. What gauges would you recomend? Where would you install them? How hard are they to install? Etc..... Thanks!
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It depends on your preference. I prefer digital over analog. Then there is the dashdaq that blows both out of the water. Most install them on the A-pillar where the grab handle is. Not hard to install. From what I've read from analog users, the hardest part was painting the new a-pillar that replaced their grab handle or tapping the exhaust manifold.
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Originally Posted by riggz
As far as which gauges... EGT, Trans temp, Boost are what most people start with. Then you can go further with engine oil temp, coolant temp, oil pressure, fuel pressure and so on.
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I installed the 2 gauge pod above the mirror.
Pyrometer is a must have, I DO NOT have a tuner (yet.. if ever) and have seen 1200* EGT a couple of times while towing.
The factory automatic trans gauge is a idiot light hooked to a pointer, in other words if your temp starts to climb you won't know it till it's too late.
"How hard are they to install?"
Easy hard impossible depends on YOUR ability. On my DIY 1 to 10 scale it was a 4, but I'm 60.
You only need a drill, bit and TAP, some wire, elec connectors (unless you buy this http://www.itpdiesel.com/store.php?crn=104&rn=416&action=show_detail I didn't and wish I had)
Here's the best part about the ITP setup they'll paint the POD for you
Here's my $350.00 setup.
http://www.itpdiesel.com/store.php?crn=166&rn=486&action=show_detail
http://www.itpdiesel.com/store.php?crn=166&rn=487&action=show_detail
http://www.itpdiesel.com/store.php?crn=143&rn=381&action=show_detail
Pyrometer is a must have, I DO NOT have a tuner (yet.. if ever) and have seen 1200* EGT a couple of times while towing.
The factory automatic trans gauge is a idiot light hooked to a pointer, in other words if your temp starts to climb you won't know it till it's too late.
"How hard are they to install?"
Easy hard impossible depends on YOUR ability. On my DIY 1 to 10 scale it was a 4, but I'm 60.
You only need a drill, bit and TAP, some wire, elec connectors (unless you buy this http://www.itpdiesel.com/store.php?crn=104&rn=416&action=show_detail I didn't and wish I had)
Here's the best part about the ITP setup they'll paint the POD for you
Here's my $350.00 setup.
http://www.itpdiesel.com/store.php?crn=166&rn=486&action=show_detail
http://www.itpdiesel.com/store.php?crn=166&rn=487&action=show_detail
http://www.itpdiesel.com/store.php?crn=143&rn=381&action=show_detail
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Originally Posted by albran
Pyrometer is a must have, I DO NOT have a tuner (yet.. if ever) and have seen 1200* EGT a couple of times while towing.
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Originally Posted by tex25025
I don't think he would really need the boost considering it's an 06 and on my 06 the boost gauge is fairly accurate compared to my aftermarket one. There are two reasons why I went aftermarket on the boost, first was the better range of display and second I'm planning on an aftermarket turbo. I would say EGT and Tranny Temp(if an auto, unless you do some very very very hard work with that standard like sled pulling), you could forego the boost unless you have a particular reason why you would want it. For the third and forth spots(if your only doing an a-pillar); I would say water temp or oil temp for the third spot(there is some debate on which one is better or more useful, I prefer the water temp one, if you go with oil temp that's fine as well or you could do both just take up the remaining slots), for the fourth slot I would do oil psi unless your thinking about injectors or something else that's going to demand more fuel then that stock fuel pump is going to like then I would do a fuel pressure gauge.
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Originally Posted by riggz
how much allowance the trans temp gauge has.
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Originally Posted by tex25025
EGT without a tuner is not as a must have as a tranny temp gauge. I have successfully driven countless trucks that haven't had issues that you would associate as having been prevented with an EGT gauge, however, on those same trucks I have had tranny issues, so in all honesty for a stock truck without a tuner I would say the tranny gauge is a must have, egt is good to have, but not a must have. Now with a tuner, the egt gauge is most definately a must have.
a tuner?I only see 1200 when I'm towing 14K 5th wheel up some pretty long hills/moutain passes etc at 55 mph or so.
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Last edited by albran; Dec 22, 2007 at 12:48 PM.
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With the size of the piston cooling nozzles and the materials of both the pistons and turbocharger turbine materials, 1200* is a joke for this engine. I have made prolonged runs into the 1600 -1700 degree range numerous times on many engines in my rigs and never had a problem. I have never had temperature related issues arise with the needle still registering on a 2000* gauge. (Now once it gets off the gauge for a while.... 
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Actually the 6.0 is pretty tolerant of high EGTs, 1200* is not really the magic number; it's definitely a safe number; but I know I've driven mine (recently) for 2-3 hours with EGTs running between 1250 and 1400 and the truck has shown no adverse effects. Even short bursts into the 1600* range do not seem to result in any damage.
As for gauge priorities my list of must haves would be: 1) Fuel Pressure, the lack of fuel pressure is a killer for injectors and when your engine starts to stumble and you notice it's way too late you've aleady done the damage; 2) Trans Temp (especially if you tow) it's the only way to tell if you're overdoing it. 3) EGT/Boost (you need to have both of these) this allows you to see if you fuel/air delivery is right and can allow you to make preliminary diagoses of problems associated with turbo/EGR when they occur.
As for mounting... It's all up to you, A-pillar, steering column, headliner, there are kits available for nearly anywhere you'd like the gauges to be, A-pillar does seem to be the most popular though.
Good luck.
As for gauge priorities my list of must haves would be: 1) Fuel Pressure, the lack of fuel pressure is a killer for injectors and when your engine starts to stumble and you notice it's way too late you've aleady done the damage; 2) Trans Temp (especially if you tow) it's the only way to tell if you're overdoing it. 3) EGT/Boost (you need to have both of these) this allows you to see if you fuel/air delivery is right and can allow you to make preliminary diagoses of problems associated with turbo/EGR when they occur.
As for mounting... It's all up to you, A-pillar, steering column, headliner, there are kits available for nearly anywhere you'd like the gauges to be, A-pillar does seem to be the most popular though.
Good luck.
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I've heard of no reviews of this for a 6.0 but it seems pretty neat. http://www.aeroforcetech.com/Fordtech.html
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Originally Posted by 07psdrookie
I've heard of no reviews of this for a 6.0 but it seems pretty neat. http://www.aeroforcetech.com/Fordtech.html
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I have pretty much the same kit as albran but I went with the black faced gages and under dash mount.
http://www.itpdiesel.com/store.php?c...on=show_detail
I have posted before about setting up my tranny temp gage to monitor multiple inputs using a rotary switch from Radio Shack. I currently have it set up to read front and rear diffs, tranny and coolant with two inputs left. One of these will be engine oil temp when I get an Oilguard bypass filter and the ESP luber system installed.
https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/6...ut-gauges.html
http://www.itpdiesel.com/store.php?c...on=show_detail
I have posted before about setting up my tranny temp gage to monitor multiple inputs using a rotary switch from Radio Shack. I currently have it set up to read front and rear diffs, tranny and coolant with two inputs left. One of these will be engine oil temp when I get an Oilguard bypass filter and the ESP luber system installed.
https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/6...ut-gauges.html