2005 Head Gasket Question
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Trucks still in the shop as I just dropped it off there yesterday. They completed all the diagnostics which is what lead them to the issue being the head gaskets. I'll call them this morning to see if they would be willing to upgrade to head studs rather than bolts (I'll pay the cost of the studs). They told me yesterday that the truck would be ready to pick up this afternoon.
The only other is thing the truck was in for since I got it was door alignment and wheel oscillation.
3000 FPS - It isn't a matter of will power, I got the truck for work, I typically work 7 days a week in the oil patch and if my truck is down for repairs, I either pay for a rental or take time off work, so I may win the race but I would stand to loose much more I I'm not working......It's a pretty simple decision. I wouldn't be much use without the lift and big tires......Besides that, it just looks cool.
The only other is thing the truck was in for since I got it was door alignment and wheel oscillation.
3000 FPS - It isn't a matter of will power, I got the truck for work, I typically work 7 days a week in the oil patch and if my truck is down for repairs, I either pay for a rental or take time off work, so I may win the race but I would stand to loose much more I I'm not working......It's a pretty simple decision. I wouldn't be much use without the lift and big tires......Besides that, it just looks cool.
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From: Drain Oregon and Sacramen
Originally Posted by hangon2me
I have 30,500 and no problems so far with the heads. Now for the Transmission I am on my 1st rebuild. I am sure that the EGR is a major factor in blowing head gaskets. I did the Turbo sneaky up-pipe with the EGR blocker plate and I have noticed a good 100+ drop in EGT's. Before pulling my boat the temp gauge was getting close to the red zone and my fan was always on, now my temp gauge never leaves the normal zone dead in the middle of the display and seldom does the fan kick on. I get my truck smog checked and the emissions are much lower with out the EGR working. The EGR system is a bunch of crap that ruins motors and has nothing to do with cleaning up the emissions. Sorry I had to vent..
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From: Drain Oregon and Sacramen
Originally Posted by skirk55
You are 100% right! I must say that we might get more response when people see that post. Before I purchase a Tuner or Module I have to know if the bad gasket problem has been taken care by Ford. I asked my dealer about the head gasket problem and he told me it happens to people with tuners! The dealer can tell by the burn on the top of the piston because the injectors have too much power. Please do not get upset with my question about head gaskets I just want the truth. All of the information that I get here has been very informative. This is a big decision and I need everyones help. I do not want my wife breathing down my neck WHY DID YOU GET THAT STUPID TUNER! When I am at the dealer with antifreeze leaking on the ground.At least I am honest.
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Originally Posted by bfloyd4445
said he liked the sct cause it was more fun but he went for the 2mpg increase he got with the hypermax which he didn't see with the sct and out of the box tunes.
I have seen a 1/3 (7-9mpg) increase in fuel economy over stock (15mpg at best with an average of 13mpg) with the SCT as long as I can stay within 2100-2200rpm...that's damned good in my mind. Now I get between 20 and 24mpg depending on conditions and weekly average is 22mpg.
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From: Texas
Originally Posted by Kusto
I have seen a 1/3 (7-9mpg) increase in fuel economy over stock (15mpg at best with an average of 13mpg) with the SCT as long as I can stay within 2100-2200rpm...that's damned good in my mind. Now I get between 20 and 24mpg depending on conditions and weekly average is 22mpg.
I've seen several posts that programmers mess up the MPG info.
It would really help if people reporting MPG could say if they are from the Lie-o-Meter or hand calculated.
Thanks
ab
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From: Drain Oregon and Sacramen
Originally Posted by albran
I'm curious are these MPG figures from the Lie-o-Meter or hand calculated?
I've seen several posts that programmers mess up the MPG info.
It would really help if people reporting MPG could say if they are from the Lie-o-Meter or hand calculated.
Thanks
ab
I've seen several posts that programmers mess up the MPG info.
It would really help if people reporting MPG could say if they are from the Lie-o-Meter or hand calculated.
Thanks
ab
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From: Grande Prairie, Alberta
Originally Posted by albran
I'm curious are these MPG figures from the Lie-o-Meter or hand calculated?
I've seen several posts that programmers mess up the MPG info.
It would really help if people reporting MPG could say if they are from the Lie-o-Meter or hand calculated.
Thanks
ab
I've seen several posts that programmers mess up the MPG info.
It would really help if people reporting MPG could say if they are from the Lie-o-Meter or hand calculated.
Thanks
ab
My weekly average packing a Kawasaki 750 (630lbs) travelling at 120-130kmph (75-80mph) I average 22mpg and I try and maintain 2100-2200 rpm also have adjusted the tire size as close as possible to actual tire size (600 revs per mile) to compensate for the larger tires just to confirm speed and RPM. I have even used a GPS to confirm mileage just in case and the only numbers I have provided are the most accurate possible (GPS and hand calc). If I can maintain this mileage, I doubt that I will get rid of this truck anytime soon.
Is that enough detail? Please let me know if there is anything I left out. I did not record wind speed and direction so I can't report that data.
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Oh yeah, turns out te head on the passenger side was warped and needed to be replaced and only the gaskets were replaced on the drivers side. Also replaced the cap on the degas bottle.
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Originally Posted by Kusto
Mileage is hand calculated in Imperial miles per gallon (1.2 US Gallons/ Imperial Gallon). I couldn't believe it my self, had another guy that was with me check the math. Checked on two different trips on that was 2000km (1250 miles travelling east into the prairies of Saskatchewan) and another trip 1800km (1100 miles in the Rocky mountains heading to the coast carrying a deep freeze, four big guys and all our gear for a 1 week fishing trip).
My weekly average packing a Kawasaki 750 (630lbs) travelling at 120-130kmph (75-80mph) I average 22mpg and I try and maintain 2100-2200 rpm also have adjusted the tire size as close as possible to actual tire size (600 revs per mile) to compensate for the larger tires just to confirm speed and RPM. I have even used a GPS to confirm mileage just in case and the only numbers I have provided are the most accurate possible (GPS and hand calc). If I can maintain this mileage, I doubt that I will get rid of this truck anytime soon.
Is that enough detail? Please let me know if there is anything I left out. I did not record wind speed and direction so I can't report that data.
My weekly average packing a Kawasaki 750 (630lbs) travelling at 120-130kmph (75-80mph) I average 22mpg and I try and maintain 2100-2200 rpm also have adjusted the tire size as close as possible to actual tire size (600 revs per mile) to compensate for the larger tires just to confirm speed and RPM. I have even used a GPS to confirm mileage just in case and the only numbers I have provided are the most accurate possible (GPS and hand calc). If I can maintain this mileage, I doubt that I will get rid of this truck anytime soon.
Is that enough detail? Please let me know if there is anything I left out. I did not record wind speed and direction so I can't report that data.
Wind speed and direction DOES make a BIG difference especially when I'm pulling our 5th wheel, but I don't record those either.
Those SCT tuners are looking better everyday, maybe that one 07 failure was going to happen anyway.
Personaly I'm going to give them a few more months...winter diesel + pushing a lot of snow (etc) + tuner = a good test.
ab
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my 2006 blew both head gaskets at 9,000 miles. Probably started with only 1 gasket but dealer told me to keep driving it since they couldnt diagnose it on my first visit. The dealer installed the studs for me but unfortunately I havent been able to "test" them yet since the truck has been back 4 more times for leaks and suddenly I am losing injectors too (2 of them since they worked on it).
In 05 I think Ford upgraded the gaskets but the bolts are the same and bolts are the problem. I wouldnt waste time having this repair done without the studs. A good friend of mine is on his 2nd set of gaskets in 50k miles but he used the TTY bolts on the 1s repair.
In 05 I think Ford upgraded the gaskets but the bolts are the same and bolts are the problem. I wouldnt waste time having this repair done without the studs. A good friend of mine is on his 2nd set of gaskets in 50k miles but he used the TTY bolts on the 1s repair.
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Have em check both your fuel filters. I had one that was bypassing on my 2004 Dodge cummins and it would take out injectors, sometimes one sometimes 3 some time all of them...oh, also took out my injection pump after they spent $12K and 5 weeks in the shop they decided to do a fuel system flush and replaced the $13.00 filter and everything was good after that.....
The simplest things are usually the first that get overlooked... Good luck with the truck.
The simplest things are usually the first that get overlooked... Good luck with the truck.
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Originally Posted by Kusto
Mileage is hand calculated in Imperial miles per gallon (1.2 US Gallons/ Imperial Gallon). I couldn't believe it my self, had another guy that was with me check the math. Checked on two different trips on that was 2000km (1250 miles travelling east into the prairies of Saskatchewan) and another trip 1800km (1100 miles in the Rocky mountains heading to the coast carrying a deep freeze, four big guys and all our gear for a 1 week fishing trip).
My weekly average packing a Kawasaki 750 (630lbs) travelling at 120-130kmph (75-80mph) I average 22mpg and I try and maintain 2100-2200 rpm also have adjusted the tire size as close as possible to actual tire size (600 revs per mile) to compensate for the larger tires just to confirm speed and RPM. I have even used a GPS to confirm mileage just in case and the only numbers I have provided are the most accurate possible (GPS and hand calc). If I can maintain this mileage, I doubt that I will get rid of this truck anytime soon.
Is that enough detail? Please let me know if there is anything I left out. I did not record wind speed and direction so I can't report that data.
My weekly average packing a Kawasaki 750 (630lbs) travelling at 120-130kmph (75-80mph) I average 22mpg and I try and maintain 2100-2200 rpm also have adjusted the tire size as close as possible to actual tire size (600 revs per mile) to compensate for the larger tires just to confirm speed and RPM. I have even used a GPS to confirm mileage just in case and the only numbers I have provided are the most accurate possible (GPS and hand calc). If I can maintain this mileage, I doubt that I will get rid of this truck anytime soon.
Is that enough detail? Please let me know if there is anything I left out. I did not record wind speed and direction so I can't report that data.
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Originally Posted by wrangler76
So that would put you at about 16-20mpg US if you're 20-24 Imp. mpg which is a bit higher than average. That's a higher RPM than I've been trying to maintain at cruising speed.
20 Imp gal (24 US gal) and 24 Imp gal (28.8 US mpg) depending on conditions and weekly average is 22mpg (26.4 US gal). This is highway travel only and the weekly average drops 20 Imp mpg (24 US gal) in the city if I can stop showing off at the green lights.
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I think you multiplied by 1.2 when you needed to divide by 1.2 to convert to US gallons. So adjusted figures would be an average of 18.3 mpg US per week, and 16.6 mpg US in the city. Still, that's better than many are getting. And when you start to consider the mods, I think that's great mileage.