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I have seen people on here and other places that have the 4.2's but would rather have a 300. Also the inline hold up alot better and run alot smoother from experience and other people word. Gm came out with the new inline and all test seem like it is a way better motor than anything else they have ever mad and it is suposedly beating v-8s (durang and grand cherokee). Who here thinks ford should make a new inline. Give it more horses and torque than the 300(or the v-8s for that matter) and better gas milage and just as bullet proof and that would be a perfect motor. Just my opinion but oh well
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Personally I think GM is right on the money with the new I6. They're grabbing a clue from imports like BMW who've been using inlines for ages now because they're better. Or check out Ford Austrailia's I6 ... 220HP compared to the 5.0's 248. Why pay more for the 8?
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Personally, I would not trade my 1995 F150 with the 300 I6 for any gas v8 offered in a 1/2 ton. Also, I am not a huge fan of an all aluminum block ( which I believe the new GM is ). Since we are giving opinions, kill the 4.2 and 4.6 bring back the 300 and 302. The only two new Ford engines I like are the 5.4L Triton v8 and the 7.3 diesel.
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The problem i have with GM's new six is the fact that in the 4x4 setup one of the shafts goes right through the oil pan. It just seems like that's asking for trouble, not to mention a big pain in the ##### to fix if you don't have a million dollar shop.
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Ford will miss the boat if they don't revise/improve/update what is already their best engine...the 4.9L straight six. But why stop there? Why not a straight eight? GM did this before in the late 30's right up through the early 50's? Remember the big straight eights in the sedans of those years? I've seen them and even driven one, but never worked on one so can't speak to their reliability but it's worth a thought...are you listening Ford?
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>Personally, I would not trade my
>1995 F150 with the 300
>I6 for any gas v8
>offered in a 1/2 ton.
> Also, I am not
>a huge fan of an
>all aluminum block ( which
>I believe the new GM
>is ). Since we
>are giving opinions, kill the
>4.2 and 4.6 bring back
>the 300 and 302.
>The only two new Ford
>engines I like are the
>5.4L Triton v8 and the
>7.3 diesel.
I agree but there is little difference between the I6 and 302 as far as power and torque are concerned, therefore I'd sooner the I6 for a truck because it builds its torque at a lower RPM. If I wanted an 8, I'd sooner they brought back the Windsor, it has the better torque for a truck than the 302.
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>1995 F150 with the 300
>I6 for any gas v8
>offered in a 1/2 ton.
> Also, I am not
>a huge fan of an
>all aluminum block ( which
>I believe the new GM
>is ). Since we
>are giving opinions, kill the
>4.2 and 4.6 bring back
>the 300 and 302.
>The only two new Ford
>engines I like are the
>5.4L Triton v8 and the
>7.3 diesel.
I agree but there is little difference between the I6 and 302 as far as power and torque are concerned, therefore I'd sooner the I6 for a truck because it builds its torque at a lower RPM. If I wanted an 8, I'd sooner they brought back the Windsor, it has the better torque for a truck than the 302.
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The 302 V8 is a great engine, but I would always opt for the 300 I6 in a truck. If I want a V8 I would go for the 351 which is significantly more powerful than the 300 I6. The only truck I could see using the 302 V8 is that it will fit in a Ranger pickup (I've seen photos of it), whereas I doubt the 300 I6 would; however, one of Ford's older automotive I6's probably would fit in the Ranger, such as the 200/250 I6. Actually I would love to see an F150 with a 360 cid I6 built just like the 300 as a tractor-type, low rpm, torque motor (and let's bring back the Twin I-Beams too!). I estimate a 360 I6 should put out about 180 hp and 310 ft lbs (extrapolating from the 300). I don't want an OHC I6 if it is going to be driven by a rubber band--might take a chain--, but what about a shaft driven OHC or would the two 90 degree turns eat up too much power?
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...but what about a shaft driven OHC or would the two 90 degree turns eat up too much power?
The Duesenberg Indy engines of the 20s used a jackshaft OHC drive as did the Crosley of the 50s. A helical gear train is much quieter and more efficient though.
The Duesenberg Indy engines of the 20s used a jackshaft OHC drive as did the Crosley of the 50s. A helical gear train is much quieter and more efficient though.
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I would Love to see ford come back with the I6, its got to be the most durable out there. any one who makes it always endds up wit a great application. (i.e. jeep cherokee) The new i6 from gm is nice but the front drive shaft going through the oil pan is a major problem. they will soon be kicking themself for this. it would be nice to see ford come out with a 4.9 with 250-270 h.p. to smoke the new chevy, but i think the public would be happy with 200-225.
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Hmmm. I can see the first GM I-6 when the drive shaft bearings go and that shaft widens out the hole in the oil pan and everything goes to pieces in a hurry.
But now for the wish-Ford-would-build-it I-6 engine. To keep the valve train simple and bullet proof, how about a supercharged cross-flow flat head with fuel injection. There would be no top end oiling to worry about and the blower would clear out the combustion chamber during the valve overlap, providing near-100% volumetric efficiency.
But now for the wish-Ford-would-build-it I-6 engine. To keep the valve train simple and bullet proof, how about a supercharged cross-flow flat head with fuel injection. There would be no top end oiling to worry about and the blower would clear out the combustion chamber during the valve overlap, providing near-100% volumetric efficiency.
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The 4.9L I6 in my 1996 isn't exactly a powerhouse, but it is very durable. It's long stroke produces lots of torque and I am confident it will run forever.
As long as we are on the topic... Hey Ford Engineers: BRING BACK THE 460 AND GET RID OF THE V10!!! The 460 was the best thing going for the F-Series. The new 6.8L V10 produces less horsepower and torque. And while we are at it, get rid of the Twin I-Beam suspension, too! Can't you come up with something better than that after 40 years?
As long as we are on the topic... Hey Ford Engineers: BRING BACK THE 460 AND GET RID OF THE V10!!! The 460 was the best thing going for the F-Series. The new 6.8L V10 produces less horsepower and torque. And while we are at it, get rid of the Twin I-Beam suspension, too! Can't you come up with something better than that after 40 years?
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