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Old Dec 15, 2007 | 12:24 AM
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sequential turn signals?



Im using a 55 grill and I want to install turn signal lights in the orange slots.
But I want them to blink in sequence inside to outside 1-2-3
(remember the old t-bird's?)
Anyone know what it takes or how to do this?
 
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Old Dec 15, 2007 | 12:35 AM
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Get NumberDummy to look up the proper part # that the T-Birds used & just install that.
Why re-invent the Wheel.
 
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Old Dec 15, 2007 | 12:53 AM
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Ever see the CMOS cookbook? You might get some help there, it's not new technology but I think you can still get all that stuff from Radio Shack. You could build your own circuitry and use LED lights.

The Col. is probably right about not re-inventing the wheel, but that old T-Bird stuff may be unobtainable and could be very expensive if you found NOS for what you need. But it is lilkely to be a big cluster of relays and such, considering when it was done.

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Here: http://everything2.com/index.pl?node_id=1456292

They say there are systems available that you can buy. Check it out, it's a starting point. And they say the old Ford stuff in gone. It was a motor driven cam that operated switches to get the sequntial thing going.
 

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Old Dec 15, 2007 | 01:16 AM
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The original stuff is made of unobtanium (I have a friend with a T-bird that has that).

There are kits you can buy now that do the same thing. Remember "elenor" from the movie? You can buy those tail lights for your stang and wire them sequentially.

You might check some of the mustang parts sites for them. My brother (old mustang nut) showed them to me a while back.

quick google search turned up these kits. Go to sequential turn signals (link on left side).

http://www.webelectricproducts.com/products.htm
 

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Old Dec 15, 2007 | 10:50 AM
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yeah, before I thought Tbird, I thought Cougar. Prolly same part.

go modern w/ LED's, dude.

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Old Dec 15, 2007 | 11:36 AM
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Originally Posted by Brian_B

quick google search turned up these kits. Go to sequential turn signals (link on left side).

http://www.webelectricproducts.com/products.htm

Those kits looked pretty good and priced right at about $50.
 
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Old Dec 15, 2007 | 12:02 PM
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There's an aftermarket company that sells them for the Fox Cougars 83-88. Maybe see if they'll work for what you want. Also, here in MN, it's illegal to have red markers on the front. Could be just my monitor, though.
 
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Old Dec 15, 2007 | 12:24 PM
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You could always make it easy, and put LEDs in the slots, and get one of the many many available lighting kits from any number of suppliers that sale emergency vehicle lighting, and install the control for it.
 
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Originally Posted by Brian_B
The original stuff is made of unobtanium (I have a friend with a T-bird that has that).
He said: "unobtanium"
 
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Old Dec 15, 2007 | 01:22 PM
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I had a '68 Cougar and installed updated electronic rear signals from John's Cougar Central, in Michigan. When I bought them (about 18 years ago) they cost about $70. It was a plug in for the Cougar but easily adaptable.


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Old Dec 15, 2007 | 01:37 PM
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I would definitely go with LEDs, and Havi is right about the color. Front cannot be red.
 
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Ditto to whats been said already. I have a good buddy with a early model Cougar, the sequential tailight system was a series of mechanical relays and a bit of mumbo-jumbo. Its true that they are made from unobtanium. Besides, with a futuristic truck like yours I think some solid state electrical components are in order.

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Old Dec 16, 2007 | 02:11 AM
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Thanks for the info guys
the orange you see in the pic is paint
I plan on using amber led's
I ordered the kit I'll keep you posted on progress
 
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Old Dec 16, 2007 | 02:13 AM
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Originally Posted by 4tl8ford
He said: "unobtanium"
Umm...what is funny about that? If you saw the wiring, relays, and whatever else is involved...you would know why the original stuff is a mess and hard to find...if you could at all.



Originally Posted by keith56_cruz_cab
Thanks for the info guys
the orange you see in the pic is paint
I plan on using amber led's
I ordered the kit I'll keep you posted on progress
Yes...keep us updated please.
 
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Old Dec 16, 2007 | 05:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Bdox
Ever see the CMOS cookbook? You might get some help there, it's not new technology but I think you can still get all that stuff from Radio Shack. You could build your own circuitry and use LED lights.

The Col. is probably right about not re-inventing the wheel, but that old T-Bird stuff may be unobtainable and could be very expensive if you found NOS for what you need. But it is lilkely to be a big cluster of relays and such, considering when it was done.

They say there are systems available that you can buy. Check it out, it's a starting point. And they say the old Ford stuff in gone. It was a motor driven cam that operated switches to get the sequntial thing going.
The (1965 and later) Ford sequential relays (13A366), flasher motors (13A350) and turn signal flashers (13350) yes, that's correct...you needed the flasher motor AND the 3 prong t/s flasher, were crap from day one. You DO NOT want to use these parts. Finding these parts new is nearly impossible, because of the reason I typed in the first sentence. The rats nest of wiring, made the mechanics weep! STAY AWAY!!

Sequential turn signal flashers were used on: 1965/71 T-Birds; 1967/73 Cougars and 1968 Shelby Mustangs. The Cougar motors/flashers/relays are different than the ones used for the Birds (and were crap, too). The Shelby's used the 1965/66 Bird setup, and also used the 1965 Bird taillight assemblies.

Not only were the parts dog meat, but there were myriad different motors, relays and flashers used. In 1968, there were two different flasher motors, and three different relays just for the Birds.

It makes me ill just to think of all this crappola, which was a PITA to look up in the parts catalogs = serial number this, production date that...with certain Ford ID numbers, marked with whatever suppliers name... I pity the poor soul who has to cope with one of these systems today.

btw: unobtanium is apt description...these systems were Greek to most ppl.

btw part deux: In CA, it's illegal to have RED or BLUE lights on the front of any private citizens vehicle.

It's also illegal to have RED or BLUE translucent BUG DEFLECTORS!

Why? The reason is because police and emergency vehicles use red and blue lights. Private citizens vehicles can't have the same colored lights, and the translucent bug deflectors can act as emergency lights if a clear light shines through them. No, I'm not making this up...Welcome to California!
 

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