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Old Dec 14, 2007 | 08:41 AM
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Dead spot after lifting/using plow ?

Hi all, got a weird situation here,,after 14 hrs snowplowing last night, 9" of the white stuff in Eastern CT., my 06' F-350, 6.0 was doing this weird hesitatsion thing,,as coming to a stop,and lifting the plow, pop into reverse,,and have a dead pedal or this 1-2 second of hesitatsion, where the engine does nothing,,then it revs,,and its OK !

Now this is in direct coralation, with using the plow,,because a few times if I had my finger on the button,,and I would raise/angle the plow, the engine hesitated, or deadspotted instantly as I used the plow,,the truck would lurch/ lunge as plow button was pressed and let off.

This to me,,, seems to be something is getting starved for 12 V juice as the plow pump is operated,,I mostly notice it in reverse, after making a push and lifting the plow as I come to a stop, pop into reverse, hesitates, then off it goes as usual. Other then that,,the truck, engine performed flawlessly.

Just a note,,the truck has done this since new, and sometimes there is a shudder ,,like trans is slipping when in reverse,,only when plowing ! Any Ideas?? Thanks,,,,,,Mark
 
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Old Dec 14, 2007 | 05:48 PM
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I have the same problem with my 04 F250, when shifting in to rev. while raising the plow it has a dead peddle for a sec. or two then it kicks in. Almost like a shift interlock that dose not allow the motor to accelerate until the rev. gear is engaged. just my thought.
 
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Old Dec 14, 2007 | 06:20 PM
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Try putin a volt meter on your truck when you are using your plow and see if the voltage drops down. Last night my lift pump froze, when I tried to lift the blade the truck did not run or work right until the voltage came back up over 12 to 13 volts.
 
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Old Dec 14, 2007 | 07:37 PM
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thats funny i was just noticeing the same thing in my 06 350, it almost feels like the transmission is in neutrual for a few seconds, what kind of plow setup are you running? mine is a 9' boss.
 
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Old Dec 14, 2007 | 08:41 PM
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I wanna plow ) LMAO
 
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Old Dec 15, 2007 | 01:13 AM
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my 92 does pretty much the same thing after plowing for a while the battery gets a little low and it hesitates....normaly I can go a long time but if the headlights are on then it happens sooner. usualy plowing is at pretty low rpm and them plows take a lot of juice so I think it can be draining on a battery....a lot of people add another battery on the plow trucks. when I hit the lift button I can see the ampmeter go way down.

tuesday was the first time i really had a problem with it. driving from one drive to the next is usualy good to keep me charged up but the other day i had 2 parking lots right next to each other and had to stop for a min or 2 and hold the rpms up a little and let it re charge once. I also make sure to do that before i shut the truck off. was almost to low to restart one time after plowing and shutting it off right away. I think i'm going to start putting the charger on the truck when i'm all done plowing, or at least before the next snowfall jsut to make sure it is completely full.....gotta maintain the equipment!!
 
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Old Dec 15, 2007 | 01:15 AM
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I guess i should say mine is not a diesel like the ones your talking about, but I think the electrical issue is not picky about that!!
 
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Old Dec 15, 2007 | 06:05 AM
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My plow is a 9' Fisher MM,,I recall my last truck, an 04' F-350 V-10, same plow,,but the V-10, with only 1 battery, really made the light's dim,,heat fan slow way down when all were on,,,with the diesel and 2 batteries,,ya dont really notice any of that!

Hmmm now seems like others are having issues too,,,I wonder if by chance hooking the plows main power to the second battery,,would make a difference, in the way the truck and plows electric draw would effect each other,,ofcorse still only hooking up to 1 (one) battery. Any thoughts on this ??
 
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Old Dec 15, 2007 | 08:33 AM
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I have a 8' fisher min. mount II Stainless X-Blade.. I still seem to get a delay even with out a plow. just wondering if it was a gear/shift interlock, or a voltage issue. I am soon to upgrade the alt. to a 200 amp heavy duty alt from http://www.alternatorparts.com/
 
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Old Dec 15, 2007 | 09:26 AM
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8' Fisher HD. I am not in to plowing in came with the truck.
 
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Old Dec 15, 2007 | 01:12 PM
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I have a Boss 8' HD, I don't see the problem you are having but I did notice that the coolant temp runs a lot hotter. It usually is in the 180-190*F range when at operating temp but while plowing it was up to the 210-220*F range. Today I was out and it ran cold, down aroiund 160*F for the longest time(30 min. highway driving) before coming up to 170*F. I have it sitting out in the driveway now and will check coolant level once it is cooled off. It was fairly cold this morning, in the teens instead of the 20's so that may have had something to do with it...
 
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Old Dec 15, 2007 | 03:24 PM
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Originally Posted by bigbarry
Try putin a volt meter on your truck when you are using your plow and see if the voltage drops down. Last night my lift pump froze, when I tried to lift the blade the truck did not run or work right until the voltage came back up over 12 to 13 volts.
bigbarry is on the right track here, I had the same thing happen to me while plowing "dead spot" etc. Exept the truck finally died, our mechanic put a bigger batteries in the truck. I'm guessing you still have the factory batteries in your truck.

After the batteries upgrade My plow truck worked fine 2003 6.0 32,000 miles on it running a "Western plow".
 
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Old Dec 15, 2007 | 03:53 PM
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I guess I'll add my name to the list. Haha. I have an 8 ft western ultra mount. I get the hesitation sometimes too.
 
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Old Dec 15, 2007 | 03:57 PM
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Originally Posted by m350
My plow is a 9' Fisher MM,,I recall my last truck, an 04' F-350 V-10, same plow,,but the V-10, with only 1 battery, really made the light's dim,,heat fan slow way down when all were on,,,with the diesel and 2 batteries,,ya dont really notice any of that!

Hmmm now seems like others are having issues too,,,I wonder if by chance hooking the plows main power to the second battery,,would make a difference, in the way the truck and plows electric draw would effect each other,,ofcorse still only hooking up to 1 (one) battery. Any thoughts on this ??
The dual batteries in the SD are hooked up in parallel and there is no isolator between them, so it does not matter which battery you hook up to, the electrical system still sees the same load. You may need a higher capacity alternator. The Snow Plow package came with the higher output alternator (140A) on the single alternator trucks and a different fan clutch on the 6.0.
 
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Old Dec 15, 2007 | 11:22 PM
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Well, coolant level is normal so I guess it was just a high temp reading due to having the plow on there coupled with not having much air flow while pushing snow.
I did end up putting the heater on full blast with the windows open to help control it, guess I'll have to keep an eye on it. I know someone posted the part number for the other fan clutch that comes with the snowplow prep package, guess it's time to go back and find it...
 

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