I just got my oil changed as well as my air filter. The very next day my truck runs very rough at idle. It did this for one full day only at idle. Sometimes it wont kick into the rough idle other times I feel as if the truck is going to stall.

Just today the check engine light came on something I have dreaded ever since my ordeal with a 97 ranger that ford mechanics couldn't fix.

I figured the 100.00 obd2 reader would be far cheaper than having ford tell me eventually that every part is bad. The yellow glow on the dash from my Rangers check engine light left me with nightmares of every pay check being taken.

Sorry, moving on the code is p0022 and it states, "intake camshaft position timing over retarded bank 2".

I have spent a 2 hour extensive search to find out not much on this issue. I know small details but was hoping that someone has dealt with this and has some insight. I am frightend to take this to the dealer.

Anyone have some helpfull insight?

Thanks,

Tom R

 

What year truck, miles, and engine?

 

Oooos details I forgot....


2004 5.4 77,000 miles

 

Ok, I think Bank 2 is the passenger side. The VCT’s are located at the front of the engine inside the valve covers. Now right behind the oil fill cap there should be a 2 wire plug going into the valve cover (very very easy to see on my 07), check there first to make sure they didn’t mess it up during the oil change. The driver side one is located in the same place on the valve cover under the power steering reservoir bracket.

 

Thanks very much Screwy! I will look into that tonight or tomorrow and report back what the results are. I really appreciate your input, hope thats all it is!!!

 

all looks fine to me, now i am not sure what my next move is?!

 

Well, I think this really is whoever changed your oil problem. The VCT’s regulate oil flow to adjust the cam timing. So it’s more then a little suspicious that immediately after an oil change a component that directly deals with it fails. But anyways, chances are good it’s the result of the oil change so I don’t think you need to be looking at electrical, that’d probably throw a P0020 or P0021 anyways. The wrong oil filter (defective filter), oil contamination and possibly the wrong weight of oil can throw these things out of whack. Though I’d suspect an oil problem would cause both of them to fail, but who knows.

On a side note it’d make sense to me that the sensor could just as much be the culprit, but the manual doesn’t even suggest it could be the cause.

Anyways, all of that to say you should take it to whoever changed it and see what they will do for you. If you wish to pursue it yourself start by making sure you have the right oil and filter, probably just change it again. After that you need to verify there is power to the VCT, if there isn’t look at the wiring, if there is then you need to probe the VCT’s resistance. If that checks out you need to pull the VCT and verify operation, if it works fine then you have a contaminated spider bracket (don’t know what that is but it sounds like an oil supply line). To pull the VCT’s there is ether a grommet around the connector that’ll come out or you have to pull the valve cover, there is just one bolt holding it in, and you have to be extremely careful not to drop it.

I’ve never done this so I don’t know what your going to run into.

 

Thanks so so much for all of your help I much appreciate it. I don't even know if they changed my oil filter, I thought it was just the oil and I told them to put in the 5/20 or whatever it says on the top of the oil cap. Maybe they didn't have it and put something else in? Maybe I learned my lesson, I have never taken my trucks in to get an oil change until this time, go figure!!!!


They showed me my air filter and it was just awful so for 11.00 bucks they through in a new one, that wouldn't be the cause of that error would it? They were not sure if the part number matched but one of the mechanics told another that it was the right one. I told them I wanted to compare the old to the new and it looked identical to me?

I might just say screw it, change the oil again myself and the oil filter. Clear the code from the computer and see if it gets triggered again. Thoughts?


Tom R

 

Your air filter wouldn’t affect it, your safe there. Not sure why’d they’d change the oil and not the filter, they kind of go hand and hand in my book.

Sounds like a plan, no guarantees it’s going to help, but it’s the cheapest route at this point. If you have a multimeter you could probe it, problem being is I belive it’s probably a fast pulse output, most digital multimeters aren’t quick enough for that kind of work so it’s hard to tell what’s really happening.

 

Thanks for the help and advice! I'll clear it once after I change it and see what happens.

Also, am I allowed to ask for the name of a recommended mechanic/shop in the bay area California, or is that a no no?

 

The best thing to do also would be to disconnect the battery for a couple minutes and then connect it back up. That will reset the code and the computer. Other than that it looks like screwys got ya covered.