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Old Dec 13, 2007 | 08:43 PM
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I can create jobs...

...If the IRS would let me keep all my tax money. I have 3 daughters + my wife...every dime would go right back out into the system. Pretty quick.

But, if the AMT issue doesn't get resolved...and enough to help me...they will have even less $$$$ to put back in the system....and create jobs.

 
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Old Dec 13, 2007 | 08:57 PM
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what is up with that?

how dang difficult could it be? "did not take into account inflation". how hard of a concept is it?

i can't blmae the dems or repubs on this one, blame them all. they are so greedy to take money that was not orginally intended for them in the first place.

now i guess there is this give away take away thing where if they cut tax somewhere, they must find the money somewhere else. what ever. the money was not the gov's in the first place to spend.

i been reading tons about small business start up, i must admit, it is a bit overwhelming right now. it kind of scares me a bit to step out and try it.
 
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Old Dec 14, 2007 | 05:53 AM
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Originally Posted by bf250
what is up with that?

how dang difficult could it be? "did not take into account inflation". how hard of a concept is it?

i can't blmae the dems or repubs on this one, blame them all. they are so greedy to take money that was not orginally intended for them in the first place.

now i guess there is this give away take away thing where if they cut tax somewhere, they must find the money somewhere else. what ever. the money was not the gov's in the first place to spend.

i been reading tons about small business start up, i must admit, it is a bit overwhelming right now. it kind of scares me a bit to step out and try it.
I was scared at first but that was ten yrs ago,go for it it will all become natural after a few yrs.
 
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Old Dec 14, 2007 | 08:17 AM
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i can't blmae the dems or repubs on this one, blame them all. they are so greedy to take money that was not orginally intended for them in the first place.
Well, you most certainly can blame the Democrats for refusing to deal with it in this session.
 
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Old Dec 14, 2007 | 08:41 AM
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Yeah...help me out with this. The Dems want to add back taxes elsewhere to replace the money.

Previous to this year about 4 million tax payers were affected by the AMT...myself included.

For the '07 tax year an additional 20+ million will be affected paying somewhere between $2k -$4K in additional tax that they haven't paid in previous years. This is new money for the IRS...what is there to replace? It wasn't theirs yet anyway.

Am I right? Or am I wrong?
 
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Old Dec 14, 2007 | 08:47 AM
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Ken, you and I both know what the answer to that one will be: "We inherited this mess; we can't fix it overnight. Wait until Hillary is president, then we'll set this country right as rain."

kw5413: that's the price we 'affluent' middle class citizens pay for being so darn "successful".
 
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Old Dec 14, 2007 | 08:50 AM
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I don't mind paying my fair share. What I do mind is paying my taxes by their rules....then their parallel formula decides it still is not enough after all... and they take more. That's what pisses me off.
 
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Old Dec 14, 2007 | 08:54 AM
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What is the threshold now?......Good link on this?.......I've gotta admit, I haven't really paid much attention to the AMT (which I'm sure delights certain people in the gov), except when a pol or two talks about it on TV (i.e. 20-million more people getting socked with extra taxes if the AMT isn't fixed).....They haven't been working on it?......

Is there a threshold (income) for 1 person?, a couple?, family of 3?....of 4?......

Good link that someone here can recommend?.....

Sorry that I'm behind the curve on this one.
 
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Old Dec 14, 2007 | 08:57 AM
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Originally Posted by kw5413
I don't mind paying my fair share. What I do mind is paying my taxes by their rules....then their parallel formula decides it still is not enough after all... and they take more. That's what pisses me off.
Now THIS part I understand.....Isn't this what they do every Apr 15th?.......They take taxes from you all during the year without you even seeing the money you've worked for, then make YOU square away what you made and what they took and (more often than not), say that you have to pay more?.....

Income taxes, Capital gains taxes, FICA, etc. should ALL be abolished by Constitutional Amendment (it was a constitutional amendment that granted the government the right to take part of your income in the first place). Some of you probably know where I'm going with this.......
 
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Old Dec 14, 2007 | 09:02 AM
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Here is a link I posted on another thread.

It is a very complex formula that ,apparently, strongly favors you paying higher taxes. Here is a link that may help but, it is pretty mind boggling in itself. Good luck.

http://www.fairmark.com/amt/
 
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Old Dec 14, 2007 | 09:09 AM
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Here's the new tax form for the 2007 year. I hear it's been simplified tremendously.

Line 1 : How much did you earn this year?

Line 2: Send it in.
 
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Old Dec 14, 2007 | 09:27 AM
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Reminds me of that TV commercial I saw awhile back although I can't rememer what it was for.

Guy walks into the IRS office carrying all these documents, receipts etc.

Guy: I've never been audited before, but I think I have everything you need here, receipts....

IRS: Sir, did you earn money last year?

Guy: Yes...

IRS: Did you give us most of it?

Guy: Yes...

IRS: Have a good day, sir.
 
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Old Dec 14, 2007 | 10:05 AM
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Ron Paul wants to abolish the IRS and income taxes entirely.
 
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Old Dec 14, 2007 | 10:50 AM
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Ron Paul wants to abolish the IRS and income taxes entirely.
Welcome to the FairTax......
 
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Old Dec 14, 2007 | 11:10 AM
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No, Ron Paul wants to abolish income taxes and the IRS and replace it with NOTHING.
 
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