PERMORMANCE CHIPS - please explain....
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PERMORMANCE CHIPS - please explain....
Can someone explain how these chips work? Has anyone installed them on their F-150? What changes have you noticed in performance? Who is the best manufacture of these chips... or are they all the same? Can I install this chip myself?
and lastly... does the chip void the warrenty?
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and lastly... does the chip void the warrenty?
Thanks for your thoughts!
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PERMORMANCE CHIPS - please explain....
>Can someone explain how these chips work?
First, you have to run premium. You usually pick up a couple miles per gallon so fuel costs remain about the same.
The chips do a few things:
advancement of the timing curve, increasing boost (PSD and Lightning), reconfiguration of the air/fuel mixture, remapping of the transmission shift points and firming up the transmission shifting.
> What changes have you
>noticed in performance? Who is the best manufacture of
>these chips... or are they all the same?
They are not the same. Some only program at wide open throttle. Some are more agreesive with timing advance, others more agreesive with shifting, etc. We sell the top selling brand, Superchips, in the online store here. We also sell the Diablosport, which has become EXTREMELY popular for Fords. Check out the chip forum on this message board.
>Can I install this
>chip myself?
Yes, takes about 20-40 minutes.
>
>and lastly... does the chip void the warrenty?
>
See:
http://motorhaven.autoanything.com/Web_store/Html/diablochipfaq.html
First, you have to run premium. You usually pick up a couple miles per gallon so fuel costs remain about the same.
The chips do a few things:
advancement of the timing curve, increasing boost (PSD and Lightning), reconfiguration of the air/fuel mixture, remapping of the transmission shift points and firming up the transmission shifting.
> What changes have you
>noticed in performance? Who is the best manufacture of
>these chips... or are they all the same?
They are not the same. Some only program at wide open throttle. Some are more agreesive with timing advance, others more agreesive with shifting, etc. We sell the top selling brand, Superchips, in the online store here. We also sell the Diablosport, which has become EXTREMELY popular for Fords. Check out the chip forum on this message board.
>Can I install this
>chip myself?
Yes, takes about 20-40 minutes.
>
>and lastly... does the chip void the warrenty?
>
See:
http://motorhaven.autoanything.com/Web_store/Html/diablochipfaq.html
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PERMORMANCE CHIPS - please explain....
I got an 02 King Ranch 4x4 with the 5.4 and I am a little dissappointed in the accleration. MY old 97 lariat with the same engine used to blow away most cars on the street. What gives, should I install the chip? What did Ford do to the engine to cut back on the performance?
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PERMORMANCE CHIPS - please explain....
Ford has MANY different programs for the same engines so its possible to have the same exact truck or SUV with different performance characteristics.
The chip will give a really good performance increase, better shifting and slightly better gas mileage but you have to factor in whether burning premium is something you want to do. If you can stay out of the accelerator with the chip installed, you'll break even on fuel costs due to the mileage increase. For me, its been hard to stay out of the accelator.
The chip will give a really good performance increase, better shifting and slightly better gas mileage but you have to factor in whether burning premium is something you want to do. If you can stay out of the accelerator with the chip installed, you'll break even on fuel costs due to the mileage increase. For me, its been hard to stay out of the accelator.
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I work for a Ford dealership and yes the chip will void your warrenty! We install tons of chips in the powerstrokes and the customer is told it may void their warrenty. When the truck has problems and the For reps need to be asked their first question is "does it have a chip" If we say yes the immediatly void the warrenty on the vehicle. Some dealerships will still work on chipped vehicles and warrenty them but thats the individual dealers, plus they can end up in trouble with Ford.
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PERMORMANCE CHIPS - please explain....
Put it in writing that the installation of a chip will void your warranty, have your service manager(s) sign it and fax it to me at 415-366-3212. Fax it using fine resolution so I can copy it can give a copy to Superchips, Diablo and SEMA. I'm willing to bet money that I'll never get a signed document because your service manager KNOWS this practice is illegal.
You cannot legally void the warranty simply for installing a chip. You must prove the aftermarket product caused the failure and then you can ONLY not cover the repair in question but you cannot void the entire warranty. I've talked to Ford several times and when I ask them, point blank, if the addition of a chip will void the warranty I am told "no." I can get that statement in writing too if you want.
SEMA, which is the largest automotive industry group, with over 50,000 member companies, has the following to say about it:
The page this comes from tells you exactly what to do when a dealership, such as yours, engages in this sort of illegal activity:
[link:www.enjoythedrive.com/content/?id=7253|www.enjoythedrive.com/content/?id=7253]
You cannot legally void the warranty simply for installing a chip. You must prove the aftermarket product caused the failure and then you can ONLY not cover the repair in question but you cannot void the entire warranty. I've talked to Ford several times and when I ask them, point blank, if the addition of a chip will void the warranty I am told "no." I can get that statement in writing too if you want.
SEMA, which is the largest automotive industry group, with over 50,000 member companies, has the following to say about it:
The Law
Federal law sets forth requirements for warranties and contains a number of provisions to prevent vehicle manufacturers, dealers and others from unjustly denying warranty coverage. With regard to aftermarket parts, the gist of the law is that warranty coverage cannot be denied simply becausesuch parts are present on the vehicle, or have been used (See Attachment A for details).The warranty coverage can be denied only if the aftermarketpart caused the malfunction or damage for which warranty coverage is sought. Disputes in this area usually boil down to arguments over facts and technical opinions, rather than arguments over interpretations of the law.
Federal law sets forth requirements for warranties and contains a number of provisions to prevent vehicle manufacturers, dealers and others from unjustly denying warranty coverage. With regard to aftermarket parts, the gist of the law is that warranty coverage cannot be denied simply becausesuch parts are present on the vehicle, or have been used (See Attachment A for details).The warranty coverage can be denied only if the aftermarketpart caused the malfunction or damage for which warranty coverage is sought. Disputes in this area usually boil down to arguments over facts and technical opinions, rather than arguments over interpretations of the law.
[link:www.enjoythedrive.com/content/?id=7253|www.enjoythedrive.com/content/?id=7253]
