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Old Dec 9, 2007 | 09:41 AM
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front axle swap

i'm interested in swaping my front 01 F-250 axle, for a late model unit, for the bigger breaks, axles, lockouts and lower gears. what i would like to do is leave my housing in the truck and swap over knuckles, gears (D-50 to D-60) and axles. so my question is, will the knuckles swap over and can you put a D-60 carrier in a D-50 housing?
 
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Old Dec 9, 2007 | 03:11 PM
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I kind of doubt it, besides, rolling the old axle out and the new one in will be much easier. While I haven't done the front that way, but I have swapped rears. You don't need to reset gears if you break them down. I am pretty sure though that the dana 50 gear is smaller than the 60, so the gears and carrier shouldn't interchange.
 
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Old Dec 9, 2007 | 03:22 PM
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You cannot put a D60 carrier and r&p in a D50 housing, they are different.

Other than that....I've never heard of anyone trying to put 05-07 knuckles and brakes on a 99-04 axle.
Some have swapped in the entire axle.
 
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Old Dec 9, 2007 | 03:31 PM
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plus the 05 and newer front axles (thats the year that got the bigger brakes) uses coil springs and your axle has leaf springs and your wheels (16") will not fit over the bigger brake so you would have to use 17" or bigger wheels. the easiest thing to do would be to (as said) get a d 60 front axle from an 02-04 and swap the whole thing out
 
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Old Dec 9, 2007 | 09:12 PM
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i know, i'll have to change out the rims, not a problem. the big question was the carrier interchangeabilty, good to know. i also know i'll have to cut all the coil spring brackets off if i swap over the whole housing just was thinking of an easier way. it's also good to know that other people have done it.
my goal is to change over to 4.30's and get rid of the ever troublesome (warping rotors) and somewhat lacking stopping power. at the same time upgrading to a D-60 and bigger axles and lockouts. will be converting to hyd boost to.
is there a write-up somewhere from the people that have done it?
what are the improvements to the rear axle?
 
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Old Dec 10, 2007 | 01:13 AM
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Originally Posted by commandtoad2
i know, i'll have to change out the rims, not a problem. the big question was the carrier interchangeabilty, good to know. i also know i'll have to cut all the coil spring brackets off if i swap over the whole housing just was thinking of an easier way.
so are you planning on getting a gutted 05 or newer front axle (good luck) and trying to put your dana 50 in it????? if you have no problem with the wheel size or the different springs just get a whole 05 or newer front axle and put it in...that would be the "easy way"
 
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Old Dec 10, 2007 | 08:09 AM
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The rear would have to be an 01, 02, 03 or 04 because in 05 they went to coil springs up front. I wonder if Dynatrac makes a direct bolt on replacement ?
 
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Old Dec 10, 2007 | 09:43 AM
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You can swap a 05-07 front axle under a 99-04 truck...just need all the steering and suspension to go with it (coils, coil buckets, radius arms, radius arm brackets, etc).


Dynatrac probably could make a complete axle setup for coils or coilovers and a 4-link.....but you'd most likely be paying $6k+ just for the axle.
You can get a complete 60 or Pro Rock 60 from them for leaf springs....again, not cheap.
 
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Old Dec 10, 2007 | 10:52 AM
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Originally Posted by DCSpecial
You can swap a 05-07 front axle under a 99-04 truck...just need all the steering and suspension to go with it (coils, coil buckets, radius arms, radius arm brackets, etc).


Dynatrac probably could make a complete axle setup for coils or coilovers and a 4-link.....but you'd most likely be paying $6k+ just for the axle.
You can get a complete 60 or Pro Rock 60 from them for leaf springs....again, not cheap.
Of course that can be done. In most cases it wouldn't be worth the cost to install an 05-07, switching over the all the suspension parts could be a nightmare. I know a few have done it. Fabtech($6k) and full traction($2800plus coil overs) both make bolt in kits to switch over, but they cost too. I think the original post was for axle only not the whole front. So, he would want pre coil spring for direct replacement.
 
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Old Dec 10, 2007 | 11:55 AM
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Unrelated...but that Fabtech isn't all that great and not worth the coin, IMO.
 
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Old Dec 10, 2007 | 12:00 PM
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Unrelated...but that Fabtech isn't all that great and not worth the coin, IMO.
I'd have to agree with you on Fabtech. If I'd switch over to coils I'd go full traction, especially at half the cost. They have a good lift I'd like to put in the Jeep, but I have to get the wife a new vehicle first.
 
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Old Dec 10, 2007 | 12:05 PM
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Yep, full traction is a much better design....better geometry of the 4-link and it's adjustable.
 
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Old Dec 10, 2007 | 12:49 PM
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4",6" or 8" just depends on coilover, makes it easy to upgrade too.
 
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Old Dec 10, 2007 | 12:54 PM
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Yep, I know guys who have set them up at 10" for customers.....just have to fab the lower trac bar mount to work with crossover steering and a relocated trac bar.
 
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Old Dec 10, 2007 | 12:54 PM
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i have a line on a complete 06' front axle housing, steering and all for $1000.
i am going to retain the leaf springs.
does anyone know a link to someone who has posted a write-up on this conversion. i did a search and didn't find anything.
again, what is the difference between the early and late mod SD rear axles?
 
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